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No One's Reading This

INMA
Tiktok
Podme
Schibsted
Washington Post
Die Zeit
Editorial Content
Journalistic Documentaries
Brut India
Spot On
Dave Jorgenson
Local News International
Newsrooms / Media Industry

No One's Reading This is an INMA podcast, hosted by Kerstin Hasse, as part of the Young Audiences Initiative, supported by the Knight Foundation. Kerstin talks to media leaders, creators, and voices from outside the legacy news bubble about the one question everyone's trying to figure out: how do you actually reach younger and new audiences? Video strategies, podcast monetization, the creator econ... more

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A chart got passed around on LinkedIn last year showing Washington Post video numbers cratering right after Dave Jorgenson left - and how his own numbers were climbing. Publishers looked at it and panicked: Is this what is happening when you bet on a... more

What can a media startup learn from a 80-year-old institution – and what can a legacy publisher learn back? In this special live episode from the INMA World Congress in Berlin, Kerstin Hasse sits down with Rainer Esser (Die Zeit) and Sruthi Gottipati... more

Publishers have been saying it for years: young audiences don't pay. PodMe has 200,000 subscribers, and more than half of them are under 35.

In this episode, Kerstin Hasse talks to Kristin Ward Heimdal, who leads PodMe, Schibsted's paid podcast plat... more

One year ago, Der Spiegel merged three digital teams into one. In a newsroom where text still carries most of the editorial weight, what happens when video, audio, and social suddenly sit at the same table?

Kerstin Hasse is talking to Aleksandra Jan... more

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Recent Guests

Dave Jorgenson
Journalist and creator who led Washington Post TikTok account and later started Local News International
Local News International / Washington Post
Episode: How the Washington Post's TikTok Guy Built a Loyal Audience – And Then Left With It
Rainer Esser
Former CEO of Die Zeit (almost 27 years)
Die Zeit
Episode: Die Zeit vs. Spot On: What Happens When Legacy and Next Gen Compare Notes
Sruthi Gottipathi
Founder of Spot On; earlier built Brut India
Spot On, Brut India
Episode: Die Zeit vs. Spot On: What Happens When Legacy and Next Gen Compare Notes
Kristin Ward Heimdal
Leads PodMe, a platform backed by Schibsted
PodMe, Schibsted
Episode: How Podme Is Winning Over Young Audiences With Paid Audio
Aleksandra Janevska
Deputy Head of Crossmedia at Der Spiegel
Der Spiegel
Episode: Der Spiegel's Crossmedia Bet: What Happens When Digital Finally Sits at the Table

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How the Washington Post's TikTok Guy Built a Loyal Audience – And Then Left With It
Q: How have you monetized Local News International and what revenue streams do you rely on?
Revenue comes from ad partnerships (Harry's, Ground News), grants, newsletters on Beehive, and a forthcoming long-form series with early access for members, plus consulting work.
How the Washington Post's TikTok Guy Built a Loyal Audience – And Then Left With It
Q: How did the decision to pursue TikTok unfold and how did you gain buy-in?
He built trust by involving key editors and veteran reporters early, leveraging humor within boundaries, and getting the right people on board so the platform could grow without causing friction.
How the Washington Post's TikTok Guy Built a Loyal Audience – And Then Left With It
Q: Take us back to 2017, what were your goals at The Washington Post and where were you coming from?
Dave describes a mission to reach younger audiences and experiment with video formats, starting with a creative video team and launching the Department of Satire before TikTok existed.
Die Zeit vs. Spot On: What Happens When Legacy and Next Gen Compare Notes
Q: What is the strategy to maintain trust and quality when working with creator voices within a legacy newsroom?
Sruthi and Rainer discuss training creators in journalistic rigour, balancing authenticity with editorial standards, and ensuring creators can connect with audiences while still verifying information and upholding core journalistic principles.
Die Zeit vs. Spot On: What Happens When Legacy and Next Gen Compare Notes
Q: How did you realize TikTok would be important for reaching younger audiences, and how did Die Zeit convince leadership to invest?
Rainer explains that the shift began with a stakeholder conversation sparked by a breakthrough moment when the team saw the potential of quick, engaging formats and a willingness from leadership to experiment, ultimately embracing a dedicated TikTok team to create 92-second vertically-formatted content that also drives deeper site engagement.

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