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Pathways To Practice
NCARB
Competency
National Architectural Accrediting Board
Competency Standard
NOMA
East Los Angeles College
Community Colleges

Get an inside look at licensure, regulation, and the initiatives shaping the future of architectural practice. The NCARB Podcast, hosted by Andy McIntyre, Vice President at NCARB, brings together architects, educators, regulators, researchers, and industry leaders to unpack the systems behind licensure—and how those systems are evolving to better serve candidates, the profession, and the public. S... more

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Pathways to Practice is built on years of research, analysis, and volunteer collaboration. This episode unpacks the foundation behind NCARB’s future licensure model: the Competency Standard.

Andy speaks with Jared Zurn about NCARB’s Analysis of Prac... more

The Architect Registration Examination is one of the most visible parts of the licensure process—but like practice itself, the exam continues to evolve. This episode explores how NCARB updates the ARE and what those changes mean for candidates.

Andy... more

Experience is essential to becoming an architect—but access to meaningful experience is not always equal. This episode looks at how candidates earn experience today and how firm culture can shape the path to licensure.

Andy speaks with Gabriella Ber... more

Education has long been one of the pillars of architectural licensure—but what does a degree actually demonstrate? This episode examines how education fits into licensure today and why it is central to conversations about access, equity, and competen... more

If the current licensure system works for many people, why change it? This episode explores the barriers, disparities, and broader pressures that led NCARB to launch Pathways to Practice.

Andy speaks with Bryan C. Lee Jr., President of the National ... more

Before we can understand where licensure is going, we need to understand how it got here. In this opening episode, Andy introduces NCARB’s Pathways to Practice initiative and explores the history of architectural licensure in the United States.

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Get an inside look at licensure, regulation, and the initiatives shaping the future of architectural practice. The NCARB Podcast, hosted by Andy McIntyre, Vice President at NCARB, brings together architects, educators, regulators, researchers, and in... more

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Jeremy Fretts
Assistant Vice President for Education and Certification
NCARB
Episode: What’s in a Degree?
Ingalil Wahlroos-Ritter
Licensed architect and educator at East Los Angeles College; former dean of Woodbury University
East Los Angeles College
Episode: What’s in a Degree?
Bryan Lee
President of the National Organization of Minority Architects (NOMA) and Principal of Co-locate Design
NOMA / Co-locate Design
Episode: Why Fix What Isn’t Broken?
Mike Armstrong
CEO of NCARB
NCARB
Episode: Why Fix What Isn’t Broken?
Ed Marley
NCARB FY26 president
NCARB
Episode: Understanding Why Licensure Is the Way It Is
Amanda Pica
Assistant Vice President of Marketing and Communications
NCARB
Episode: Understanding Why Licensure Is the Way It Is

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What’s in a Degree?
Q: How do you see the role of community colleges in licensure and education going forward?
Community colleges offer affordable access, hands-on learning, and proximity to practice, helping students gain professional literacy and work-ready skills. They can bridge the gap between education and licensure by showcasing competency through portfolios, internships, and partnerships with firms, potentially reducing debt and increasing pathways to licensure for a diverse student body.
What’s in a Degree?
Q: What are the salient points of Pathways to Practice for you?
Pathways to Practice recognizes many routes into the profession, values accessibility, and aims to validate learning and competencies gained in education and practice, especially through community colleges, while ensuring that licensure remains tied to protecting the public. It's about broadening access without compromising the essential standards.
Why Fix What Isn’t Broken?
Q: What does success look like for Pathways to Practice?
Success means attracting the 'other'—people who have given up on licensure but want to contribute to the profession—by offering non-traditional paths and credit for work experience, while still producing qualified, competent professionals.
Why Fix What Isn’t Broken?
Q: How does NCARB view the balance between regulation and modernization?
Regulators must protect the public while adapting to new realities in education, testing technology, and practice; NCARB aims to preserve safety and standards, but through flexible, inclusive models that reflect how architecture is practiced today.
Why Fix What Isn’t Broken?
Q: What is the rationale for Pathways to Practice?
The initiative is a response to multiple converging factors: advances in credentialing, awareness of bias, a president who supported non-traditional paths, and the opportunity to modernize through competency-based approaches that still maintain rigor.

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