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More Health, Less Healthcare

Peter Boland PhD
Health Equity
Weathering
Covid-19
Social Determinants Of Health
Public Health
Racism
Hawaii Community Foundation
Houston Methodist Coordinated Care
Long COVID
Blue Cross Blue Shield Of Massachusetts
Maternal Health
Community Health
Blue Cross Blue Shield Of North Carolina
Population Health
Community Partnerships
Health Inequity
Sickness Care
Water Resources
Boston Medical Center
Bloomberg News

Are you ready to rethink what health really means—and what it takes for us to achieve it? Welcome to the “More Health. Less Healthcare” Podcast, your front-row seat to a revolution in American healthcare, inspired by the game-changing book by Peter Boland.

Healthcare doesn’t have to be defined by endless bills, mounting debt, and a system that prioritizes profits over people. What if there’s a b... more

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This week on More Health, Less Healthcare, Peter Boland shines a spotlight on a concept that rarely appears in our benefit dashboards but shapes the lives of our patients, members, and colleagues daily: weathering. What is Weathering?

As Peter Bolan... more

This week on More Health, Less Healthcare, Peter explored a concept that fundamentally reshapes how we think about health, equity, and the responsibilities of systems: Weathering.

What is Weathering?

Once you hear the term, you can’t unhear it. Wea... more

We’re thrilled to feature Arlene, acclaimed author and professor at the School of Public Health in Michigan, recently honored by the National Academy of Medicine for her groundbreaking discovery of “weathering.” In this powerful conversation, Arlene ... more

We’ve just dropped a brand new episode of More Health, Less Healthcare that zeroes in on a question at the heart of American healthcare: Can nonprofit health plans truly serve their communities while operating inside a system designed to profit from ... more

We just launched a powerful new episode of the More Health, Less healthcare podcast—and trust us, you don’t want to miss this one! Peter Boland takes us deep into the world of nonprofit healthcare to reveal the surprising contradictions that shape th... more

We're excited to share the latest episode of "More Health, Less Healthcare," where Peter Boland dives deep into the powerful (and complicated!) story of how Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Minnesota turned tobacco lawsuit money into community transform... more

We’ve just dropped a brand new episode you won’t want to miss: “More Health, Less Healthcare: Blue Cross Blue Shield of Massachusetts, Part 2.” Hosted by Peter Boland, this episode dives deep into what happens after a health plan truly listens to its... more

We’re excited to share a brand new episode of "More Health, Less Healthcare" with you! This week, host Peter Boland sits down with two incredible voices from the SIREN group: Andy Quiñones-Rivera and Danielle Hessler Jones. If you care about what mak... more

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Arlene Girovas
Professor at School of Public Health, University of Michigan; author discussing weathering
University of Michigan School of Public Health
Episode: Weathering Explained: How Constant Stress and Systemic Injustice Impacts Our Health
Andy Quiñones-Rivera
Emergency Department Physician, UCSF; affiliated with Alameda Health System; co-leader at SIREN
UCSF; SIREN
Episode: How to Improve SDOH Screening Why Quality is More Important Than Quantity
Danielle Hessler
Vice Chair of Research, Department of Family and Community Medicine, UCSF; co-leader at SIREN
UCSF; SIREN
Episode: How to Improve SDOH Screening Why Quality is More Important Than Quantity
Jason Gale
Senior editor at Bloomberg News
Bloomberg News
Episode: Generational Consequences of Long COVID and Why Our Healthcare System Is Unprepared
Megan Sandel
Pediatrician leader of the Boston Opportunity System Collective
Boston Medical Center
Episode: What Hospitals Can Learn from Boston Medical Center’s Social Care Innovations
Troy Tassier
Author of The Rich Flee and the Poor Take the Bus; economist at Fordham University
Fordham University
Episode: How Economic Inequality and Social Policy Shape Pandemic Outcomes with Troy Tassier
Mualik Josie
CEO of Meritus Health
Meritus Health
Episode: Leading Health Equity and Community Impact: Meritus Health’s Transformative Journey with Dr. Mualik Josie
Dr. Julia Andrini
Senior leader focused on population health and primary care at Houston Methodist Coordinated Care
Houston Methodist
Episode: From Data to Dollars: Houston Methodist’s Strategy for ACO Growth and Quality Care

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Peter Boland
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5.0 out of 5 stars from 30 ratings
  • More Health, Less Healthcare

    Thank you, Peter, for your commitment to a healthier more balanced view on the state of wellbeing our country is facing. Without the intervention and support of our adult community United States future in in great peril and our children are at risk of a life not worth living. Very strong in your delivery and approachable to arriving at a solution.

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    Gayle the Gladiator
    United States6 months ago

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Engaging hosts who challenge conventional wisdom with evidence.
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Insightful and actionable takes on health equity and accountability.
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Making Chronic Illness Visible: Reflections on Accountability and Building Trust After COVID-19
Q: How can we better measure the true impact of pandemics beyond traditional metrics like hospital beds and mortality?
By expanding indicators to include long-term chronic sequelae, social determinants of health, and the effectiveness of public health interventions, plus using tools like wastewater surveillance and cross-sector data sharing to capture the full health and social burden.
Making Chronic Illness Visible: Reflections on Accountability and Building Trust After COVID-19
Q: What are the most constructive steps to take in the next five years to improve pandemic preparedness and public trust?
Focus on sustained, non-emergency funding for public health, build trust with communities through local engagement and trusted messengers, and invest in surveillance tools and transparent risk communication to balance long-term health creation with immediate protections.
Weathering Explained: How Constant Stress and Systemic Injustice Impacts Our Health
Q: How does the body physiologically respond to chronic stress over time?
Prolonged stress keeps the fight-or-flight response activated, increasing heart rate and blood pressure, mobilizing fats and sugars, and leading to immune dysregulation, which over years contributes to cardiovascular disease, diabetes, and poorer birth outcomes.
Weathering Explained: How Constant Stress and Systemic Injustice Impacts Our Health
Q: What exactly is weathering and who does it impact the most?
Weathering describes how chronic stress from social inequities causes biological changes that harm health, disproportionately affecting marginalized groups such as racial minorities who face discrimination, poverty, and environmental toxins.
How Economic Inequality and Social Policy Shape Pandemic Outcomes with Troy Tassier
Q: So what drove you to write this book?
Tassier explains that his interdisciplinary teaching and research, combining economics, public health, epidemiology, and social justice, converged with the pandemic to reveal how structural inequities shape health outcomes, pushing him to document these dynamics and advocate for policy reforms.

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What is More Health, Less Healthcare about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This program centers on redesigning health care around real health outcomes, equity, transparency, and accountability. Episodes explore reducing waste, redefining value in health care, and building end-to-end care that centers social determinants of health, with practical playbooks for employers, providers, and policymakers. Notable angles include weathering as a framework for health creation, workforce and governance reforms in nonprofits and health plans, and community-led strategies that align incentives with population health. The show often features leaders from public health, medical centers, health plans, and journalism to translate complex systems issues into actionable steps for healthier communities and fairer care. Potential list... more

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Recent guests on More Health, Less Healthcare include:

1. Arlene Girovas
2. Andy Quiñones-Rivera
3. Danielle Hessler
4. Jason Gale
5. Megan Sandel
6. Troy Tassier
7. Mualik Josie
8. Dr. Julia Andrini

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