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More Health, Less Healthcare

Peter Boland PhD
Maternal Health
Health Equity
Social Determinants Of Health
Weathering
Public Health
Covid-19
Blue Cross Blue Shield Of Massachusetts
Boston Medical Center
Healthcare Costs
Community Health
Houston Methodist
Cleveland Clinic
Healthcare
Food As Medicine
Racism
Nationwide Children's Hospital
Hawaii Community Foundation
Houston Methodist Coordinated Care
Long COVID
Population Health

Are you ready to rethink what health really means—and what it takes for us to achieve it? Welcome to the “More Health. Less Healthcare” Podcast, your front-row seat to a revolution in American healthcare, inspired by the game-changing book by Peter Boland.

Healthcare doesn’t have to be defined by endless bills, mounting debt, and a system that prioritizes profits over people. What if there’s a b... more

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Peter Boland dives deep into the transformative power of community-driven housing investments and how shifting incentives—and power—can radically improve health equity.

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Welcome back to More Health, Less Healthcare with Peter Boland. In this, we dive into why housing is far more than just a place to live—it's a clinical intervention that can shape the health of entire communities.

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In our latest episode, Peter Boland dives deep into the fascinating and urgent topic of Food as Medicine—a movement proving that changing what's on our plates can save both lives and dollars.

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In our latest episode of More Health, Less Healthcare, Peter Boland tackles a fundamental question: What if the healthcare industry got the incentives right? Drawing from insights in the comprehensive Health Equity Case Studies Handbook, Peter Boland... more

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George Kelp
Executive Director, Bon Secours Community Works
Bon Secours Community Works / Bon Secours
Episode: Housing as Healthcare: When Communities Decide Where Investments Go
Arlene Girovas
Professor at School of Public Health, University of Michigan; author discussing weathering
University of Michigan School of Public Health
Episode: Weathering Explained: How Constant Stress and Systemic Injustice Impacts Our Health
Andy Quiñones-Rivera
Emergency Department Physician, UCSF; affiliated with Alameda Health System; co-leader at SIREN
UCSF; SIREN
Episode: How to Improve SDOH Screening Why Quality is More Important Than Quantity
Danielle Hessler
Vice Chair of Research, Department of Family and Community Medicine, UCSF; co-leader at SIREN
UCSF; SIREN
Episode: How to Improve SDOH Screening Why Quality is More Important Than Quantity
Jason Gale
Senior editor at Bloomberg News
Bloomberg News
Episode: Generational Consequences of Long COVID and Why Our Healthcare System Is Unprepared
Megan Sandel
Pediatrician leader of the Boston Opportunity System Collective
Boston Medical Center
Episode: What Hospitals Can Learn from Boston Medical Center’s Social Care Innovations
Troy Tassier
Author of The Rich Flee and the Poor Take the Bus; economist at Fordham University
Fordham University
Episode: How Economic Inequality and Social Policy Shape Pandemic Outcomes with Troy Tassier
Mualik Josie
CEO of Meritus Health
Meritus Health
Episode: Leading Health Equity and Community Impact: Meritus Health’s Transformative Journey with Dr. Mualik Josie
Dr. Julia Andrini
Senior leader focused on population health and primary care at Houston Methodist Coordinated Care
Houston Methodist
Episode: From Data to Dollars: Houston Methodist’s Strategy for ACO Growth and Quality Care

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    Thank you, Peter, for your commitment to a healthier more balanced view on the state of wellbeing our country is facing. Without the intervention and support of our adult community United States future in in great peril and our children are at risk of a life not worth living. Very strong in your delivery and approachable to arriving at a solution.

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Whole Person Care in Action: Inside Nationwide Children’s Healthy Neighborhoods, Healthy Families Initiative
Q: How did you regain and maintain trust with the community after a history of distrust?
Trust was rebuilt through ongoing, direct relationships and transparent communication. We partnered with trusted local organizations like Community Development for All People, established a Good Neighbor Agreement, invited community feedback, relocated projects to respect residential areas, and ensured senior leaders were present at meetings to show real decision-making power and accountability.
Whole Person Care in Action: Inside Nationwide Children’s Healthy Neighborhoods, Healthy Families Initiative
Q: The big question is the capital stock. How did you put it together?
We built a capital stack by combining two core housing areas—homeownership and home repair—and then added affordable rental development in later years with a collaboration involving a housing syndicator, financial institutions, private philanthropy, and public funds. This allowed us to create a sustainable investment, break even on development, and attract funders by demonstrating credible, long-term returns and trust in Nationwide Children's.
Unlocking Community Power: The Role of Pathways Community HUBs and Community Health Workers in Holistic Care
Q: So how many pathways are there, and why do you have so many?
There are 21 standard pathways that cover a broad range of risk factors; CHWs use these to identify and address multiple interrelated issues simultaneously, prioritizing based on individual needs and resource availability.
Unlocking Community Power: The Role of Pathways Community HUBs and Community Health Workers in Holistic Care
Q: All right. Let's talk about your engagement fee. What's it based on, and does it have a relationship to how many pathways are being worked on?
The engagement fee is earned monthly per enrolled member and reflects the ongoing relationship with the CHW; there are additional payments for completing each pathway, based on outcome-based units that scale with complexity and the amount of risk addressed.
How Community Voice is Shaping Presbyterian Healthcare Services' Approach to Behavioral Health and Social Needs in New Mexico
Q: What gives you optimism about continuing to advance health equity?
Growing federal funding validation, increasing organizational commitment to equity, and a culture of heart-centered work at Presbyterian create a strong foundation for ongoing progress and impact across communities.

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This program centers on redesigning health care around real health outcomes, equity, transparency, and accountability. Episodes explore reducing waste, redefining value in health care, and building end-to-end care that centers social determinants of health, with practical playbooks for employers, providers, and policymakers. Notable angles include weathering as a framework for health creation, workforce and governance reforms in nonprofits and health plans, and community-led strategies that align incentives with population health. The show often features leaders from public health, medical centers, health plans, and journalism to translate complex systems issues into actionable steps for healthier communities and fairer care. Potential list... more

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