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Life After Ministry

Matt & Marilee Davis
Mental Health
Pastoral Care
Community Support
Burnout
Divorce
Pastoral Transitions
Church Closure
Covid-19
Gene Getz
Ministry Transition
Transition Out Of Ministry
Ministry Transitions
Western Discipleship
Flourishing In Ministry
Spiritual Formation
Church Ministry
Ministry Hub
Financial Support In Ministry
Worship Leadership
Identity In Christ

Many of us have experienced the sting of losing a job. But there’s something uniquely challenging about leaving a position in full-time vocational ministry. Whether you’re stepping down from a church or leaving a kingdom nonprofit, it’s not as simple as just changing jobs. Suddenly, everything changes. You’re left navigating not just a career transition, but also a profound shift in identity, comm... more

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Succession is one of the most important moments in the life of a ministry.

And one of the most misunderstood.

After decades working with leading Christian organizations, Steve Woodworth has watched leadership transitions unfold from behind the scen... more

Leadership often looks clear in hindsight, but confusing in the moment.

For Tami Heim, the journey into leadership began with a dramatic shift in ambition. Just days after graduating college, she surrendered her plans to follow Christ, stepping into... more

There’s a kind of grief that doesn’t come with a clear loss. No funeral. No ending. Just the quiet ache of something that never came to be. For many in ministry, this kind of grief goes unnamed and unaddressed.

Drew Hensley calls it “invisible grief... more

Many ministry leaders begin their journey with a genuine desire to serve. But somewhere along the way, leadership can quietly become something else.

Platforms grow. Expectations rise. Applause becomes affirmation. And before long, influence begins t... more

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Steve Woodworth
Author of Lost in Transition, advisor to ministries on leadership transitions
Masterworks, World Vision (former roles)
Episode: Lost in Transition (featuring Steve Woodworth)
Tami Heim
President and CEO of the Christian Leadership Alliance
Christian Leadership Alliance
Episode: Leading Christian Organizations Through Change (featuring Tami Heim)
Drew Hensley
Pastor at One Fellowship
One Fellowship, Charleston, South Carolina
Episode: A Conversation About Invisible Grief (featuring Drew Hensley)
Eric Reid
Leadership coach and writer featured discussing leadership, presence, and faith-based transitions
Writer/Leadership Coach
Episode: Leadership Was Never My Calling (featuring Eric Reid)
Doug Bullock
Retired pastor who wrote New Dawn, Helping Pastors Flourish in Retirement
Author of New Dawn
Episode: The New Dawn of Retirement (featuring Doug Bullock)
Don Ross
Former pastor, founder of Manhood Tribes
Manhood Tribes
Episode: Why Men Need Men in Transition (featuring Don Ross)
Curt Swindoll
Author, speaker, and consultant with extensive experience in both ministry and marketplace settings.
EOS Worldwide
Episode: The Next Season WITH God (featuring Curt Swindoll)
Chuck Proudfit
Founder of At Work On Purpose
At Work On Purpose
Episode: Leaving Without Losing Continuity (featuring Chuck Proudfit)
Dustin Kleinschmidt
A longtime ministry leader and church planter who has led through crisis.
Episode: The Wilderness Is Not a Detour (featuring Dustin Kleinschmidt)

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Matt Davis
Host of Life After Ministry Podcast; frequently collaborates with guests and co-hosts.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 79 ratings
  • So helpful

    This is a topic that too few people are speaking into. Really grateful for Matt and his help to others in the transition process.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    DonRoss_MT
    United States2 months ago
  • Thank you!

    Thank you for shining a light on this subject. My husband has worked at 2 churches and he has had similar experiences of hurt. Thankful the Lord is still good and faithful!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Christakidd
    United States2 years ago
  • What is needed!

    This podcast is soo good. Marilee and Matt do a terrific job of speaking to life after ministry. Both from their own perspective but also as they interview and talk with others. Heartfelt, sincere and genuine. The world needs this podcast! Thank you for doing this.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    BK-TheHumanOne
    United States3 years ago

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Tackles tough topics around burnout and faith with honesty and compassion.
Thoughtful, heartfelt discussions that honor lived experiences in transition.
Hosts bring genuine care and invite diverse perspectives, making conversations impactful and practical.

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Lost in Transition (featuring Steve Woodworth)
Q: What made you sit down and decide to write Lost in Transition?
The realization that many ministries go through painful handoffs and the belief that with better patterns, stories could be rewritten to protect mission and relationships. The process began with a casual conversation, matured through interviews with dozens of leaders, and culminated in a framework that helps both boards and leaders plan more wisely for succession.
Leading Christian Organizations Through Change (featuring Tami Heim)
Q: How do you view leadership as a communal effort rather than a solo pursuit?
Leadership is a shared journey where spaces are created for leaders to convene, be strengthened, and multiply good thinking and collaboration across organizations.
Leading Christian Organizations Through Change (featuring Tami Heim)
Q: What is the Christian Leadership Alliance and how has its focus evolved?
CLA started with competency and accountability, then broadened to leadership influence and soul care, emphasizing spiritual formation and serving leaders within the Christian nonprofit space.
Leaving Without Losing Continuity (featuring Chuck Proudfit)
Q: What does it look like for somebody who is entering the marketplace, may be coming from a ministry position?
It's about shifting mindset to see work as a mission field and integrating faith into the workplace.
The Transition I Planned...The Transition I Got (featuring Jim West)
Q: What's something that you would never do again?
I would realize what I'm getting into, and I would step out probably quicker, and know which directions to go in.

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What is Life After Ministry about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This show centers on the transition out of vocational ministry and the identity, community, and career questions that follow. Across episodes, listeners hear personal stories of burnout, crisis, and reinvention, with guests who share practical paths like starting new ventures, building supportive communities, and integrating faith into post-ministry work. The conversations frequently stress vulnerability, accountability, and mental well-being, paired with actionable strategies for navigating uncertainty, planning succession or exit, and redefining purpose beyond church roles. A standout is the consistent focus on belonging—finding or creating peer networks and spiritual practices that help people move forward with intention rather than fear... more

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2. Tami Heim
3. Drew Hensley
4. Eric Reid
5. Doug Bullock
6. Don Ross
7. Curt Swindoll
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