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England
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Second World War
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Marie Antoinette
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Afua Hirsch and Peter Frankopan tell the wild stories of some of the most extraordinary men and women ever to have lived – and ask whether they have the rep they deserve. Should Nina Simone’s role in the civil rights movement be more celebrated than it is? When you find out what Picasso got up to in his studio, can you still admire his art? Was Napoleon a hero or a tyrant - or both? (And, while we... more

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Content warning: this episode describes the aftermath of 11 September 2001, including torture and civilian deaths.

How does a country go from the sympathy of the entire world to invading a nation that had nothing to do with the attack?

What does a ... more

Who taught you that the Mongols only destroyed things?

What if the empire that sacked Baghdad also invented blue and white porcelain, elected its leaders, and let the Khan's first wife decide on war?

And why do the Mongols still have a worse reputa... more

Content warning: this episode describes the events of 11 September 2001 in detail.

What if the deadliest terror attack in history began with an American chequebook?

What if the men who carried it out had once been armed, trained and celebrated by t... more

How does a man go from calling Donald Trump a kook and a jackass to becoming his closest ally in the Senate?

What do you give up to keep a seat at the table, and what do you actually get for it?

And when the obituaries settle on calling you a pilot... more

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Recent Guests

Arwa Omaren
Star and co-writer of the one-woman show Hecuba, Why Am I In Your Country
Performer, co-writer; Palestinian refugee, UK resident
Episode: Inbox: Hecuba, Exile and Coming Home | Arwa Omaren
Karim Zidan
Investigative journalist and creator of The Authoritarian History of the World Cup
Human Rights Foundation / The Authoritarian History of the World Cup
Episode: Inbox: Why Dictators Love the World Cup | Feat. Karim Zidan
Gary Lineker
Professional footballer and public figure featured in the episode
England national football team (former)
Episode: Gary Lineker | Nation, Identity and the Beautiful Game | 2
Sir Antony Beevor
Historian and author
Historian and author of Rasputin and the Downfall of the Romanovs
Episode: Rasputin | How Rumour Broke an Empire | Feat. Sir Antony Beevor
Christopher de Bellaigue
Author and historian specializing in the modern Middle East
Episode: Iran | Feat. Christopher de Bellaigue | On The Eve Of Confrontation | 3
Kim Ghattas
Emmy Award-winning journalist and author of Black Wave
The Legacy Podcast
Episode: Iran | Feat. Kim Ghattas | The Legacies Of 1979 | 2
Ali Ansari
Professor of Iranian History, University of St Andrews
University of St Andrews
Episode: Iran | Feat. Ali Ansari | Seen From The Inside And Out | 1
Marlon James
Renowned novelist and winner of the Booker Prize
Episode: Jane Austen | Feat. Marlon James | It's Jane Austen's World And We're Living In It | 3
Professor Brett Kahr
Psychoanalyst and Freud scholar
Episode: Freud | Goodnight Vienna | 4

Hosts

Peter Frankopan
Host of Legacy; co-host/lead contributor with background in historical analysis; frequently anchors discussions and provides historical framing.
Afua Hirsch
Co-host who provides contemporary context, interviews, and historical insight; often drives interviews and frames discussion.

Reviews

4.2 out of 5 stars from 2.7k ratings
  • Factually incorrect

    Mao died in 1976 not 1979. Getting facts wrong is symptomatic of presenters relying on researchers when the topic is not their area of expertise

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    Rootsy81
    United Kingdom17 days ago
  • Prefer the old format

    Used to love the old format but just can’t take to this series. Such a shame :(

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    L@ur@1234
    United Kingdom21 days ago
  • Love legacy

    This show has really grown on me - I love the different perspectives both hosts bring to the topics. I also love how it makes me think about events in history in a new and different way. Thank you !

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Voilet1717
    New Zealand2 months ago
  • No fun.

    I have really enjoyed this podcast for a long time now but am finding Afua’s obsession with colonisation and racism becoming tedious. It is like listening to a cracked record harping on these issues over and over again. There is little enjoyment to following the podcast now.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    fragoulis gallowopolous
    Australia2 months ago
  • Previously fantastic, now fantastically mid

    When this show first came out it was honestly fantastic. Efua and Peter bounce off each other very well. Their chemistry is great and they are clearly experts in their fields. The original format of the show, focusing on individuals from history were great! Unfortunately now it seems to have deviated and dropped off massively. Random, uninteresting subjects (not even people.. isn’t that the whole point of the show?) that just don’t pique the interest, coupled with incessant political messaging f... more

    Apple Podcasts
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    Jammyad96
    United Kingdom2 months ago

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Some critics feel the format shift has affected pacing and focus for certain episodes.
A number of reviews call out perceived political framing as a strength or a flaw, depending on listener preference.
Listeners appreciate the hosts' chemistry and the way history is made engaging and thought-provoking.
Many praise accessible deep dives into biographies and global contexts, with strong personal narratives from the hosts.

Chart Rankings

How this podcast ranks in the Apple Podcasts, Spotify and YouTube charts.

Apple Podcasts
#206
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Spotify
#34
United Kingdom/History
Apple Podcasts
#51
United Kingdom/History
Apple Podcasts
#88
Canada/History
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#50
Australia/History
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#233
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Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

Inbox: Why Dictators Love the World Cup | Feat. Karim Zidan
Q: How should fans and players respond to the moral complexities of hosting the World Cup in regimes with questionable human rights records?
Fans should stay informed and maintain critical awareness rather than surrendering to escapism; reforming bodies like FIFA and resisting unconditional endorsement of state-backed ventures can help preserve sports integrity over the long term.
Inbox: Why Dictators Love the World Cup | Feat. Karim Zidan
Q: Do dictators genuinely enjoy sports, or is it more about propaganda value and crowd control?
Context matters per regime, but leaders often see sport as a strategic tool—Mussolini used it to unify a fractured nation and broadcast fascism, while others, like Trump, leveraged the spectacle for personal branding and to symbolize dominance.
Inbox: Why Dictators Love the World Cup | Feat. Karim Zidan
Q: What first sparked your interest in linking sport with international politics beyond the game itself?
I describe a personal journey from childhood football in Egypt to a broader curiosity about how fans' voices, government power, and global attention intersect, which led me to explore the political power embedded in football long before I became a journalist.
Gary Lineker | The Polictics Of The World Cup | 1
Q: When you compare your earlier, more sheltered years as a player with your current publicly vocal stance, how do you reconcile those experiences?
He notes that players were traditionally kept out of politics to preserve focus on the game, but now many feel compelled to use their voices to address human rights and justice, balancing responsibility with the realities of a global audience.
Gary Lineker | The Polictics Of The World Cup | 1
Q: How have players' roles and visibility changed from your playing days to today when it comes to speaking out on political issues?
He explains that the advent of social media and wider platforms has given players more agency to speak out, but also placed them under greater scrutiny and risk, shaping how they navigate activism while focusing on their sport.

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What is Legacy about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Two historians with complementary perspectives explore biographies and legacies of influential figures, often tying personal narratives to larger social and political themes. Episodes frequently hinge on questions of how reputations are constructed, the moral complexities of famous lives, and how modern lenses refract past actions. Notable strengths include deep historical context, thoughtful dialogue between hosts, and a willingness to connect biography to contemporary issues, making it appealing for listeners who enjoy rigorous analysis paired with narrative storytelling. A recurring upside is the engaging chemistry between hosts and the breadth of topics, from individual figures to broad cultural trends; a potential drawback for some is ... more

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1. Arwa Omaren
2. Karim Zidan
3. Gary Lineker
4. Sir Antony Beevor
5. Christopher de Bellaigue
6. Kim Ghattas
7. Ali Ansari
8. Marlon James

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