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Leading for Good

Sarah Audsley
Leadership
Africa
Ethiopia
Lead Beyond

Welcome to the Leading for Good Podcast series with Elaine Herdman-Barker, Chair & Partner for Mutual Growth...and the search for the common good at Global Leadership Associates. Join us as we gather with people who are transforming leadership. The series aims to stretch how we think about “a leader's footprint.” We’ll ask, can leaders tip the world towards the good and contribute in ways that bot... more

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Does accountability look the same to elites and governing classes as it does to the rest of us? Is it shaped by culture and history? What does it mean to harmonise good and bad energies? Is it understood differently in the Global North and South? Her... more

In this first part of The Shape of Distance, host Elaine Herdman-Barker, chats to Steadman Harrison, president and founder of Lead Beyond about how distance - geographical, cultural and historical - can shape how we approach leadership. We all know t... more

Leaning into Hope for Ourselves and Society 

Is there more to life than money? Have we built ourselves provisional personalities? What does it mean to be a whole person in society and what are the obligations we face? Elaine Herdman Barker, Co-found... more

What is it to be a convener of people? Where do leaders find meaning in it all? Is there still room to talk about the place of character? Mark Leishman worked in the private office of the then Prince of Wales, now King Charles. His grandfather was Lo... more

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Leng Lim
Guest with a global background in healing, teaching, coaching, and advising; discusses leadership traditions and cultural perspectives
Independent practitioner with global leadership work
Episode: Series 3 - Episode 2: The Shape of Distance, Part 2. Leng Lim talks with host, Elaine Herdman-Barker. In this episode, Leng Lim offers, in his own words, his perspective on what is both life-giving and limiting about leadership traditions.
Steadman Harrison
President & Founder of Lead Beyond
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Episode: Series 3 - Episode 1: The Shape of Distance, Part 1. Steadman Harrison, President & Founder of Lead Beyond talks with host, Elaine Herdman-Barker about what Africa can teach the world about leading through hardship.

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Series 3 - Episode 1: The Shape of Distance, Part 1. Steadman Harrison, President & Founder of Lead Beyond talks with host, Elaine Herdman-Barker about what Africa can teach the world about leading through hardship.
Q: What role does rest and burnout play in sustaining leadership that can endure global challenges?
Rest is essential. A leader who reframes rest as a strategic tool—through sabbaticals and downtime—can prevent burnout, rethink priorities, and return ready to contribute in more meaningful ways.
Series 3 - Episode 1: The Shape of Distance, Part 1. Steadman Harrison, President & Founder of Lead Beyond talks with host, Elaine Herdman-Barker about what Africa can teach the world about leading through hardship.
Q: How do you reconcile the realities of poverty and conflict with the need to train and develop leaders across regions?
Understanding poverty as a culture helps identify the rules and structures that either hinder or enable growth. By creating safe spaces and doing youth-focused, inclusive development, you unlock potential and build durable leadership pipelines even in challenging contexts.
Series 3 - Episode 1: The Shape of Distance, Part 1. Steadman Harrison, President & Founder of Lead Beyond talks with host, Elaine Herdman-Barker about what Africa can teach the world about leading through hardship.
Q: What has your journey in Africa taught you about leadership across cultures and the balance between outside-in perspectives and local autonomy?
It taught me the importance of genuine curiosity, listening, and dialogue rather than imposing prescriptive theories. Over twenty years, I learned to be more authentically myself while recognizing common humanity across cultures, which improves how we lead and develop others.

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