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Former senior national security officials Michael Allen, Jeremy Bash, and Andrew Shapiro interview top leaders in national security, including intelligence officers, military leaders, and policymakers, on the most critical security challenges of our time. Their interviews offer insights into the world’s most pressing problems and assess the effectiveness of U.S. policy responses. They also explore... more

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Andrew Shapiro talks with former Pentagon Arctic policy head Iris Ferguson about how melting sea ice is ushering in a new era of great power competition, ending decades of 'Arctic exceptionalism.' Iris, the DOD's first Deputy Assistant Secretary for ... more

Michael Allen talks with Craig Singleton, Senior Director for China at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, about whether President Trump is locked into an inescapable trade war with China's Xi Jinping. Craig discusses the high-stakes gamble ea... more

Michael Allen talks with former CIA senior executive Glenn Corn about whether Turkey is a US ally or wildcard. They discuss how Turkey is navigating the conflicts in Syria and Ukraine while managing relationships with both Washington and Moscow. Glen... more

What does President Trump's plan for peace in Ukraine look like, and what could it cost Kyiv? Michael Allen talks with Peter Rough, a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute, about the high-stakes diplomacy under way right now. Peter unpacks the determ... more

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Recent Guests

Craig Singleton
Senior Director for China and Senior Fellow at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies
Foundation for the Defense of Democracies
Episode: The 'Tariff Trap': Craig Singleton
Glenn Corn
Foreign policy expert with 34 years of experience in US intelligence, defense, and foreign affairs
Cypher Brief, Varyag Consulting
Episode: The Turkish Tightrope: Glenn Corn
Peter Rowe
Senior Fellow and Director of the Center on Europe and Eurasia at the Hudson Institute
Episode: Trump, Ukraine, and the Ceasefire Gamble: Peter Rough
Arnold Sinisalu
Former Chief of the Estonian Internal Security Service
Estonian Internal Security Service
Episode: The Estonian Watchmen: Arnold Sinisalu
Tamir Hayman
Major General and former Chief of the IDF's Intelligence Directorate
Institute for National Security Studies
Episode: Inside Israeli Military Intel: Tamir Hayman
General Frank McKenzie, Jr.
Former commander of US Central Command and executive director at the University of South Florida's Global and National Security Institute
University of South Florida
Episode: Strategic Frontlines: Gen. Frank McKenzie
Michael Allen
Managing partner at Beacon Global Strategies
Beacon Global Strategies
Episode: 'Flip the Script'
Jeremy Basch
Episode: 'Flip the Script'
Jonna Mendez
Legendary CIA officer and Chief of Disguise
Episode: Umasking the CIA: Jonna Mendez

Hosts

Michael Allen
Host and co-founder at Beacon Global Strategies, with a focus on national security insights and analysis from a wealth of experience in intelligence and strategic decision-making.
Andy Makridis
A co-host offering insights into intelligence and security policy, with experience as a former CIA official.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 379 ratings
  • This guy is an idealogue

    This guy pushed Russiagate and claimed Hunter’s laptop was a Russian plant…..zero credibility. Partisan hack.

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    Project Pratt
    United Statesa month ago
  • Mike is great

    Some decent episodes of this podcast. However, it is funded by Palantir, a company owned by foreign oligarchs to capture US intelligence data.

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    evilscott
    United States4 months ago
  • Thanks Andy and mike!

    This is a welcome addition to my podcast list…listening to old time radio intelligence reports on Vietnam doesn’t compare to this wonderful educational experience. Keep on rock and rolling Andy and mike!

    Freedom is defended by intelligence professionals and important defensive preparedness. Y’all explore vast amounts of educational material that teens and adults need to listen too. Thanks to your advertisers for realizing this important podcast needs to be funded for the experience of intellige... more

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    hippie bippie
    United States6 months ago
  • Meh

    If you want the regime/establishment narrative this is a good podcast. Most guests of this podcast have in some way or shape have overseen/enabled the dramatic decline of the US status on the world stage with their antiquated worldviews

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    apt6ix
    United States8 months ago
  • Fantastic

    Love the temperament and rythem to these interviews. Class act M.M. 👍

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    radtzo?
    United States9 months ago

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Episodes offer a sophisticated analysis of pressing geopolitical issues.
In-depth interviews with credible national security experts.

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The 'Tariff Trap': Craig Singleton
Q: What does your gut tell you on whether Xi Jinping wants to make this gamble?
Singleton believes Xi is serious about military buildup for Taiwan's retake, but any decision to invade will be complex and risk-averse.
The 'Tariff Trap': Craig Singleton
Q: What do you think about Taiwan and just the politics of deterrence?
Singleton emphasizes the complexity of U.S. policy on Taiwan and indicates that the administration sees economic resilience as essential to Taiwan's defense.
The 'Tariff Trap': Craig Singleton
Q: How is China going to retaliate? And that's not great for us either, isn't it?
Singleton suggests that China has limited options for retaliation and highlight how the tariffs and China's export controls present dual pressure on the U.S.
The 'Tariff Trap': Craig Singleton
Q: Can you elaborate on what that means and what are the core dynamics that are driving this spiral?
Singleton explains that the spiral occurs because both Trump and Xi believe the other will capitulate, with Trump using tariffs as a weapon while Xi cannot afford to back down.
Trump, Ukraine, and the Ceasefire Gamble: Peter Rough
Q: What is the most likely outcome for security assurances in a final status agreement?
The best outcome would include a ceasefire where Ukraine secures guarantees for military assistance to keep pace with Russia's capabilities.

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What is NatSec Matters about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Incorporating insights from former senior national security officials, the content primarily revolves around interviews with key figures in fields such as intelligence, military, and policymaking. Episodes frequently tackle pressing security challenges, examining topics like economic warfare, hybrid military tactics, and the evolving geopolitical landscape surrounding nations like Russia and China. The podcast stands out for its in-depth exploration of individual careers within national security, offering listeners a unique perspective on the experiences that shape policy and strategy. This combination of expert interviews and biographical insights serves to educate audiences about the complexities of national security in an accessible form... more

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4. Arnold Sinisalu
5. Tamir Hayman
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8. Jeremy Basch

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