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Formerly known as Intelligence Matters, the NatSec Matters podcast features former senior national security officials Michael Allen, Jeremy Bash, and Andrew Shapiro as they interview top leaders in national security, including intelligence officers, military leaders, and policymakers, on the most critical security challenges of our time. Their interviews offer insights into the world’s most pressi... more

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Michael speaks with Ralph Goff, a 35-year CIA veteran and six-time Chief of Station. Ralph, now with Cipher Brief, talks about Israel's daring "Rising Lion" operation targeting Iranian nuclear facilities. He explains why Israel pursues such high-stak... more

Andrew speaks with Dr. Michael Osterholm, founding director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy Center at the University of Minnesota about his new book, "The Big One: How We Must Prepare for Future Deadly Pandemics", which is an... more

Michael speaks with Zack Cooper, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, about the evolving dynamics of US policy toward China and the Indo-Pacific. Zack discusses how President Trump's pursuit of a meeting with Xi Jinping has shaped US... more

Michael speaks with President and Founder of the Institute for Science and International Security David Albright about the state of the Iranian nuclear program following US and Israeli strikes. David, a renowned expert on Iran's nuclear program, prov... more

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Recent Guests

Dr. Michael Osterholm
Regents Professor and Director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota
Beacon Global Strategies
Episode: COVID & The Next 'Big One': Dr. Michael Osterholm
Craig Singleton
Senior Director for China and Senior Fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies
Foundation for Defense of Democracies
Episode: The New Frontiers of the US-China Tech Competition: Craig Singleton
David Fitzgerald
A career intelligence officer with over 38 years of service in Latin America and various war zones
Episode: Cartel Threats - A National Security Challenge: David Fitzgerald
Bradley Bowman
Senior Director of the Center on Military and Political Power at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies
Center on Military and Political Power
Episode: 'World War I with Drones': Bradley Bowman
Vice Admiral James Syring
Former Director of the Missile Defense Agency, overseeing defense against missile attacks
United States Navy
Episode: Shielding the Homeland: Vice Admiral James Syring
Dr. Karen Young
Senior Fellow at the Middle East Institute, leading the Economics and Energy Initiative
Middle East Institute
Episode: Beyond the Barrel: Dr. Karen Young
Dr. Tom Karako
Director of the Missile Defense Project at the Center for Strategic and International Studies
Center for Strategic and International Studies
Episode: Arrows and Quivers: Dr. Tom Karako
Kelly Ann Shaw
Partner at Aiken Gump's Lobbying and Public Policy Practice, former Deputy Assistant to the President for International Economic Affairs in the Trump administration.
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Episode: The 'Sledgehammer' to Global Trade: Kelly Ann Shaw
Richard Nephew
Former Deputy Special Envoy for Iran and sanctions policy expert, currently associated with Columbia University.
Columbia University
Episode: Special Episode: The Next Move in the Iran Crisis with Richard Nephew

Hosts

Michael Allen
Host and national security expert with a strong background in intelligence matters and strategic policymaking, bringing insights from his experiences in the field.
Andrew Shapiro
Host and expert in national security and defense, with a focus on strategic relationships and U.S. policy.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 421 ratings
  • Dr. Karako interview!

    An outstanding discussion on missile defensive/offensive capabilities. Well done.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Steve-MASS
    United States4 months ago
  • Excellent analysis

    Fulsome analysis looking at all the evidence.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    >>l
    United Kingdom4 months ago
  • Incredible Insight for US National Security & Global Strategy. Unparalleled

    Insight Thoughtful and Based on Publicly Available Information. So Important to Understand Public Discourse & Dynamics in Global Politics

    Often Relisten to Episodes when Considering Complex Problems

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    @&123457@&
    United States4 months ago
  • Biased Interviewing

    Quality has dropped significantly since the handover from Intelligence Matters to NatSec Matters. The credentials and non-partisanship of the host have degraded from Michael Morrell to the present Michael Allen and company. While the podcast still books credible guests, the interview questions are leading (pro-Trump for successes, anti-Biden for negative results). I was an avid listener of the Intelligence Matters podcasts, and was giving this a fair chance. Waste of time, there are other source... more

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    Makai Lanai
    United States4 months ago
  • Biden Propaganda

    Laughably ill-informed.

    Apple Podcasts
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    The S.K.P. Machine
    United States5 months ago

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There are mixed reactions, with some feedback indicating concerns about perceived bias in interviews and content.
The discussions are seen as timely and relevant, often addressing urgent global security threats.
Listeners appreciate the insightful analysis provided by experienced guests.
Overall, the podcast is considered a valuable resource for anyone interested in national security and geopolitical issues.

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COVID & The Next 'Big One': Dr. Michael Osterholm
Q: What role should the government play in pandemic preparedness?
We need more investment in vaccines and infectious diseases and a focus on being better prepared for potential pandemics.
COVID & The Next 'Big One': Dr. Michael Osterholm
Q: Has there been any change in how builders and others are thinking about air circulation since the COVID pandemic?
I wish I could be optimistic about this and say that there is change, but unfortunately, there has been limited investment in understanding ventilation and air exchange in buildings.
COVID & The Next 'Big One': Dr. Michael Osterholm
Q: What motivated you to write this book, The Big One?
I started considering the book way back in 2020 because I was already seeing a number of things that I thought were not in the best approach to what we needed to do to control this pandemic.
'The Cork in the Bottle' - China, Taiwan and the US: Zack Cooper
Q: Why should the United States care if Taiwan is taken by the Chinese?
Cooper outlines several reasons: impact on security for U.S. allies, economic loss, technological supremacy linked to Taiwanese semiconductor production, and the need to support Taiwan's democracy.
'The Cork in the Bottle' - China, Taiwan and the US: Zack Cooper
Q: What should our policy to China be?
Zack Cooper states that the U.S.-China relationship will be challenging in the short term and emphasizes the need to be firm while also engaging cooperatively, especially to bolster deterrence in the Indo-Pacific.

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Focusing on national security issues, this show features interviews with prominent leaders in government and military circles, including intelligence officials and policymakers. The discussions dive into pressing security challenges, providing insights into U.S. policy responses and the decision-making processes behind them. The hosts, who are seasoned veterans in the field, also highlight the personal and professional journeys of their guests, rendering it both educational and engaging for listeners interested in national defense and global affairs.

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1. Dr. Michael Osterholm
2. Craig Singleton
3. David Fitzgerald
4. Bradley Bowman
5. Vice Admiral James Syring
6. Dr. Karen Young
7. Dr. Tom Karako
8. Kelly Ann Shaw

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