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Heavy Networking

Packet Pushers
Network Automation
Networking
Cybersecurity
Artificial Intelligence
Sd-Wan
Python
Network Operations
SASE
Fortinet
OSPF
AI In Networking
Ethernet
Automation
Palo Alto Networks
Packet Pushers
Ansible
BGP
Machine Learning
Ipv6
Agentic AI

Heavy Networking is an unabashedly nerdy dive into all things networking. Described by one listener as "verbal white papers," the weekly episodes feature network engineers, industry experts, and vendors sharing useful information to keep your professional knowledge sharp and your career growing. Hosts Ethan Banks & Drew Conry-Murray cut through the marketing spin to explore what works—and what doe... more

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Ethan and Drew gather the rest of the Packet Pushers team to discuss the State of the Packet Pushers Network. Together they provide a behind the scenes look into current initiatives like adding video and raising the standards of our audio. They also ... more

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AI has complicated network automation. It has created questions: If AI generates code for me, do I need to learn Python? Should I be writing a script to gather network information if I can dispatch an AI agent to gather that information for me instea... more

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Your network is an interconnected system. A change you make on one device has consequences beyond that device. Therefore, to do your job well, you must think about the network as a whole. That’s the big idea behind a blog post written by guest Jason ... more

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If you think Tailscale is just a VPN for the home lab, think again. On today’s sponsored episode Ethan and Drew are joined by Tailscale CEO Avery Pennarun. Avery explains how the company has evolved into an enterprise-grade connectivity and security ... more

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Recent Guests

Jason Gintert
Co-founder and president of the United States Networking User Association
USNUA
Episode: HN831: The Sum, Not Just the Parts: How and Why to Think Holistically About Your Network
Avery Pennarun
CEO of Tailscale
Tailscale
Episode: HN830: Tailscale CEO on WireGuard, Zero Trust, and Securing AI (Sponsored)
John Hintz
Senior Global Systems Engineering Director at Selector
Selector
Episode: HN828: How Selector Unifies Cloud and On-Prem Network Observability (Sponsored)
Shivam Srivastava
VP of Product for Prisma Browser for Business
Palo Alto Networks
Episode: HN826: An Inside Look at Palo Alto Networks Prisma Browser for Business (Sponsored)
Avi Freedman
Founder of Kentik, AI/Network observability expert
Kentik
Episode: HN824: That’s Not a Job for an LLM: The Right Way to Apply AI to Network Operations (Sponsored)
Mark Prosser
Network Operator Advocate and Network Automation Dreamer
Nokia (employer)
Episode: HN823: Defining A Modern Network Service
David Gee
CEO and Chief T-Boy at Curvium
Curvium
Episode: HN822: Now I Understand. You Mean an AI-Safe Zero-Trust Network Automation Approach (Sponsored)
Ryan Hamel
Network automation developer for Zayo Group
Zayo Group
Episode: HN821: Boring Network Design Is Good
Ian Swanson
VP AI Security at Palo Alto Networks
Palo Alto Networks
Episode: HN820: Cyber Week 2026 Wrap Up with Palo Alto Networks: Agents, Prisma AIRS and NGTS (Sponsored)

Hosts

Ethan Banks
Host of Heavy Networking
Drew Conry-Murray
Co-host of Heavy Networking

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 657 ratings
  • Deep dive into both current

    Heavy Networking is a deep dive into up and coming and relevant technologies in our business. And they get on experts that show you the practical applications of the technologies and how you're going to use it, what situations you're going to use it in, so that you're aware of what's out there. What I think is important is that they're both currently widely deployed technologies and the stuff that's still on the startup scene that you probably don't want to deploy yet. But in three years it's go... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    spuluka
    United States3 years ago
  • Great podcast

    Wonderful information!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    linux 66
    United States4 years ago
  • Excellent.

    Podcast Addict
    5
    crashmaster18
    4 years ago
  • Such a wealth of knowledge! 🧠

    This is one of the most insightful podcasts that I have ever come across! The Packet Pushers team does such a great job of sharing their wisdom and I love how they lead meaningful conversations with guests who bring so much experience to the table. If you’ve got a question related to anything “networking technology” this is definitely the place to go. Highly recommend checking this show out - you won’t be disappointed!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    ASobering
    United States5 years ago
  • Great podcast from a great network

    Podcast Addict
    5
    ggiesen
    6 years ago

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Many reviews note the value as a professional development resource and a reliable source for industry trends.
Listeners praise the show for deep, practical technical content and expert guests.
Feedback highlights the hosts' ability to balance detail with accessibility, though some criticise bias in guest selection.

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#159
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#147
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#177
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#185
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Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

HN831: The Sum, Not Just the Parts: How and Why to Think Holistically About Your Network
Q: Jason, before we start with this network as a whole idea, give us an update in the USNUA, man. What's going on with the United States Networking User Association here in 2026?
USNUA has grown to around 40 groups, expanding from the East to West Coast, with ongoing efforts to recruit sponsors, volunteers, and presenters and to broaden participation.
HN830: Tailscale CEO on WireGuard, Zero Trust, and Securing AI (Sponsored)
Q: What is the relationship between Tailscale and WireGuard, and what does Tailscale add on top of WireGuard?
Tailscale provides the control plane and policy orchestration on top of the WireGuard data plane, automatically updating configurations, enforcing centralized policies, and making it easy to deploy a large-scale mesh network without the manual mgmt burden that WireGuard normally requires.
HN829: EVPN/VXLAN Vs. TradCore
Q: Is EVPN/VXLAN worth it for very small environments?
Not necessarily. For two switches or very small fabrics, TradCore often makes more sense due to lower complexity and overhead, unless there are clear future plans to scale massively or multi-site deployments where EVPN/VXLAN advantages become more pronounced.
HN829: EVPN/VXLAN Vs. TradCore
Q: How does automation influence operating EVPN/VXLAN versus TradCore?
Automation benefits both approaches, but EVPN/VXLAN typically requires more upfront automation for configuration generation and deployment due to its complexity. TradCore can be automated too, but manual operation remains feasible for smaller environments without heavy automation investment.
HN829: EVPN/VXLAN Vs. TradCore
Q: What are the VLAN and workload mobility constraints that influence the choice?
EVPN/VXLAN can support large numbers of subnets with mobility across racks, but VLAN limits (4,000 VLANs typically) and multi-vendor interoperability issues can complicate deployments. TradCore uses simpler VLAN mappings and tends to be easier to manage manually, which matters for teams with limited automation experience.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Heavy Networking

What is Heavy Networking about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Heavy Networking presents deep, technically focused discussions on networking infrastructure, operations, and emerging tech. Episodes frequently center on practical architectures (SD-WAN, multi-cloud, telemetry and observability), real-world deployment experiences, and vendor ecosystems, often with hands-on guests from vendors, operators, and engineering teams. Noteworthy are its robust technical debates, emphasis on practicality and reliability, and sponsorships that spotlight relevant enterprise networking tools. The show tends to attract senior engineers, architects, and network operators who value concrete insights, migration strategies, and realistic assessments of new technologies, rather than marketing fluff. Potential listeners will... more

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1. Jason Gintert
2. Avery Pennarun
3. John Hintz
4. Shivam Srivastava
5. Avi Freedman
6. Mark Prosser
7. David Gee
8. Ryan Hamel

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