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Raw, unfiltered conversations with Special Forces operators, billion-dollar founders, fighter pilots turned coaches, and career changers who burned it all down to build something real. Hosted by Jeff Cluff. Long-form interviews built around military service, entrepreneurship, startup failure, leadership under pressure, trauma, resilience, AI, and hard-won wisdom you won't hear anywhere else. No sc... more

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In this episode, host Jeff Cluff sits down with Chris Hadnagy, a world-renowned social engineer, author, and founder of the Innocent Lives Foundation. Chris shares jaw-dropping stories from his career in ethical hacking, explains the psychology behin... more

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How do you recover when your life's biggest gamble completely falls apart?In this interview, former Microsoft Sales Leader and current 3Cloud Chief Sales Officer Scott Wilson shares his incredible story of overcoming failure and climbing the corporat... more

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In this episode of The Four Fs Podcast, Jeff sits down with fractional Chief Revenue Officer and Revenue Rascals host Michelle Terpstra to unpack the five reasons X—and the exact revenue systems she uses to take companies to their first $50M ARR.From... more

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Female founders still get a tiny slice of venture capital—and Liana Zavo says the real problem is visibility, not talent.In this episode, refugee kid turned “Mother of PR” and investor Liana Zavo breaks down the 5 things women must do to get funded i... more

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Dr. Craig Kaplan
A leading AI researcher with a long history at CMU and a focus on collective intelligence and safe AI design
Carnegie Mellon University (former)
Episode: World's Leading Safe AI Expert: Superintelligence Will Change Everything & It's Closer Than You Think! - Dr. Craig A. Kaplan
David Mead
Leadership educator and author who collaborated with Simon Sinek and later built his own practice
Author, Speaker, Leadership Coach
Episode: 5 Reasons Your Job Feels Empty (And How To Fix It) - David Mead
Lee Anderson
Cybersecurity professional focused on red team/blue team, social engineering, and education
Innocent Lives Foundation; Curious & Secure (brand)
Episode: Inside the Mind of a Hacker: Social Engineering, Security, and Staying Safe in a Digital World
Manuj Aggarwal
AI expert and founder of AI Merge/MindMerge
MindMerge / AI Merge
Episode: You Can Turn Your Fear Into a Superpower | AI Expert/Yogi | Manuj AggarwalAg
Jeff Burningham
Founder, investor, author; subject of the interview
Peak Capital Partners; author of The Last Book Written by a Human
Episode: Judgment Day for Humanity: Venture Capitalist/Founder/Author Jeff Burningham on Fear, Hope, and AI
Richie Landward
Trauma survivor, river guide, and therapist; developer of Mind-Body Bridging approaches
Mind-Body Bridging Institute / Blue Clover Therapy
Episode: You're Not Broken — Richie Landward on PTSD, Shame, and Learning to Love Your Fear
Andrew Nathan
Former Australian Army Special Forces Signalman and Premier Field Engineer at Microsoft, cybersecurity leader
Microsoft
Episode: My Mother Was Stabbed 32 Times — From Australia's Steel City to Special Forces to Microsoft
Jason Ellis
Founder/CEO with a track record in Spring Mobile, Simply Mac, GadgetGuard, Matter Brands, and 3Park
Spring Mobile (acquired by GameStop); Simply Mac; GadgetGuard; Matter Brands; 3Park
Episode: Mall Kiosk to Billion-Dollar Exit — Jason Ellis on Building Spring Mobile

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Jeffrey Cluff
Host of the show and interviewer; leads long-form conversations with founders, veterans, and executives.

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5.0 out of 5 stars from 7 ratings
  • One of the best in the podcast game

    Jeffrey is one of the finest hosts I’ve had the pleasure of listening to. His preparation is meticulous, and his warm, conversational approach draws out genuine insight and depth. Every question feels intentional, every exchange meaningful. Watch this space: he’s on track to become one of the very best in the game.

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My Mother Was Stabbed 32 Times — From Australia's Steel City to Special Forces to Microsoft
Q: How did military leadership shape your management style at Microsoft?
Military leadership taught me discipline, structured learning, and rigorous problem-solving. I learned to treat teams like diverse learner groups, apply situational leadership, and focus on coaching and care for direct reports. This translated into a hands-on, outcome-oriented approach at Microsoft, where I emphasized customer-centric problem solving and building teams that can operate across global units. This background helped me drive security initiatives and mentor others effectively.
My Mother Was Stabbed 32 Times — From Australia's Steel City to Special Forces to Microsoft
Q: What was your career path before joining Microsoft, and how did you end up in a technology-focused role?
I started in the Australian Public Service doing IT and debt-collection work, then transitioned to the Army as an Information Systems Technician. After years of deploying and working in specialized signal roles, I joined Microsoft where I initially thought I'd be in a non-security role, but through mentorship and a few pivotal projects I pivoted into cyber security and built a security practice. The key turning point was realizing the impact I could have by combining technical depth with customer-focused delivery.
You're Not Broken — Richie Landward on PTSD, Shame, and Learning to Love Your Fear
Q: How do you approach fear in the moment when you're under pressure on a difficult river run or in a therapy session?
Acknowledge the fear, be present with it, take a grounding breath, and then engage your source and senses to reframe the experience from a place of love and learning. This creates a pathway from fear to action and growth.
Coaching, Leadership, And What I Learned in Prince George's (PG) County Maryland About Winning
Q: What's the role of mentorship in your career?
Mentorship has been ongoing and multi-faceted, with multiple mentors across business, basketball, and health. The key is diverse guidance, not a single guru; open-minded listening and pulling insights from several sources helps navigate complex decisions.
Coaching, Leadership, And What I Learned in Prince George's (PG) County Maryland About Winning
Q: What kinds of businesses did your family run, and what did you observe about entrepreneurship from them?
My father ran a succession of ventures from real estate to a tobacco farm to a gas station, while my mother held steady roles. The common thread was resilience, willingness to shift setups for scale, and an emphasis on customer service and margins—the essence of entrepreneurship even under pressure.

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