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Emma & Tom Talk Teaching

Emma O'Dubhchair & Tom Breeze
Curriculum For Wales
Education Policy
Senedd Elections
Wales
Reading
Estyn
Plaid Cymru
Literacy
Cardiff
Art Education
Neoliberalism
Every Future Foundation
Anti-Racist Education
AI In Education
Diversifying and Decolonising Curriculum
Teaching
National Plan For Music Education
Reflective Practice
Authentic Contexts For Learning
Professional Learning

We’re Emma (PGCE Secondary Drama) and Tom (PGCE Secondary Music) from Cardiff Metropolitan University. Welcome to our podcast, in which we muse about the joys of working with student teachers, the expressive arts, research, and teaching in general. Expect deep discussions, topical debates, celebrations of great practice, and things to steal for your own lessons! Our primary audience is student tea... more

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We've reached the end of season 8 of Emma and Tom Talk Teaching, and to celebrate the end of another academic year, we're going to take on the end-of-level boss! Learning Styles is a neuromyth (something that people say about how the brain works that... more

Today we look at our own initial teacher education (ITE) provision here at Cardiff Met, and question how effective the concept of Research and Enquiry has been for our student teachers. Working in a policy environment where teachers are expected to b... more

Tom is joined in the non camera-enabled studio today (sorry, YouTube subscribers!) by Sarah McErlaine, who works with schools in Caerphilly county here in Wales. Sarah has just completed her professional doctorate, in which she worked with literacy s... more

This week we welcome two academics from the University of the West of England - Joe Brown and Dr Tim Clark - to the studio. They’re here to discuss their recently published book Debating Childhoods, which gives Tom and Sian the chance to have an in-d... more

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Recent Guests

Sioned Dafydd
Research partner and colleague
Cardiff Metropolitan University
Episode: Research and Enquiry in Initial Teacher Education with Sioned Dafydd
Sarah McErlaine
Principal curriculum and skills lead at Cuffilly County Borough Council; former senior leader in a comprehensive school; doctorate in concept-based curriculum design
Cuffilly County Borough Council
Episode: The Key Concepts of a Literacy Curriculum with Sarah McErlaine
Joe Brown
Programme Leader for Undergraduate Early Childhood Programme, University of the West of England
University of the West of England
Episode: Debating Childhoods with Joe Brown and Dr Tim Clark
Tim Clark
Director of Research, School of Education and Childhood, UWE
University of the West of England
Episode: Debating Childhoods with Joe Brown and Dr Tim Clark
Gareth Evans
Director of Education Policy
University of Wales Trinity Saint David
Episode: SENEDD ELECTIONS SPECIAL: What did we learn from our interviews? with Dr Gareth Evans & Finola Wilson
Donald Mbeutcha
Interim CEO of Every Future Foundation, focused on anti-racism in education
Every Future Foundation
Episode: Tackling Racism in Education with Every Future Foundation
Sara Gattward
PR and Marketing Assistant at Every Future Foundation, youth program assistant
Every Future Foundation
Episode: Tackling Racism in Education with Every Future Foundation
David Didow
Friend of the podcast, contributor and commentator
Independent/Guest
Episode: Easter Special 2026!
Cefin Campbell
Plaid Cymru spokesperson and education portfolio holder
Plaid Cymru
Episode: SENEDD ELECTIONS SPECIAL INTERVIEW: Cefin Campbell (Plaid Cymru)

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Emma O'Doher
Host of the show with a background in teacher education; frequently collaborates with Tom on teaching practice topics.
Tom Breeze
Co-host and lead presenter; discusses research, policy, and classroom practice with guests.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 33 ratings
  • PGCE podcast is a must listen

    This podcast has been an invaluable resource as a PGCE student in terms of keeping me up to date on current books and hot topics in education and higher ed. Emma and Tom are superb hosts. Highly recommended!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Tweety2455
    Canada6 years ago
  • Great resource for PGCE students

    Would recommend this podcast to all students in their PGCE and moving forward in their teaching careers. Emma and Tom are excellent, informed hosts who present great insights and tips for educators.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Tweety2455
    United Kingdom7 years ago
  • Awesome

    Currently a student at the same university in which they both teach; thoroughly enjoying the podcast, lots of information but every podcast is very enjoyable!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    RacheeeeeelH94
    United Kingdom7 years ago
  • Inspiring

    Thank you Emma, Tom and guests.

    Your podcasts are inspiring, really good and easy to listen to and very informative. I am encouraging SJHS staff to subscribe and of course the next amazing cohort of ITE teachers.

    Thanks again!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    TNSJHS
    United Kingdom7 years ago
  • Thanks for a fantastic podcast 😁

    I started listening to this podcast when it first launched in September 2018 and now I am starting my Primary PGCE in Cardiff Met 12 months later!

    The content of these podcasts is great for anyone in the process of applying to be a teacher or for a teacher with decades of experience.

    Thanks Emma and Tom. I can’t wait to join you soon!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    gherkiny
    United Kingdom7 years ago

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Excellent resource for PGCE students and new teachers.
Inspiring and valuable for staff development and policy understanding.
Very informative and easy to listen to with practical insights for classrooms.
Great for anyone involved in education who wants actionable ideas and thoughtful discussion.

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What's Going On with Maths in Wales?
Q: What role should subject knowledge and pedagogical content knowledge play in ITE and ongoing teacher development?
Strong subject knowledge and pedagogical content knowledge are critical; without them, teachers struggle with misconception handling, probing for understanding, and delivering progression with consistency across year groups.
What's Going On with Maths in Wales?
Q: How do you view the Curriculum for Wales in practice—as a framework to plan from or something too high level for beginning teachers?
There is a tension: the CfW is seen as high level and challenging for novices to turn into concrete lessons, highlighting the need for more detailed guidance and bite-sized learning intentions to help teachers implement it effectively.
What's Going On with Maths in Wales?
Q: From the Estyn press release, what resonated most with your recent experience as trainee teachers and NQTs?
The panel agrees that there is a real issue with non-maths specialists teaching maths and a need for more subject-specific professional learning, plus a desire to translate high-level policy into practical classroom guidance and progression.
EXTENDED DISCUSSION: 'A National Plan for Music Education' with Dr Elizabeth MacGregor and Dr Viv John
Q: Elizabeth, you know more about England than we do because you're over there in Oxford at the moment. So I think you're going to kind of set the scene from over the border.
Elizabeth outlines the historical context of England's National Plan, emphasizing a shift toward elite Western art music and a governance structure that creates a narrow, instrument- and performance-focused view of music education, while acknowledging broader equity goals.
Authentic Contexts for Learning with Katie Berrisford and Elizabeth Berry
Q: What are the opportunities and challenges of providing authentic context for pupils' learning when it comes to money matters?
Katie explained that the opportunities lie in tying financial education to real-life decisions and ongoing relationships with schools, while the challenges include logistics, budgeting, and proving impact to funders; she advocated for starting small, leveraging existing school links, and gradually expanding activities.

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What is Emma & Tom Talk Teaching about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This show centers on teacher education, practical classroom practice, and education policy through lively conversations with researchers, practitioners, and policy experts. Episodes frequently explore how university-based research translates into real schools, concepts like communities of practice, concept-based curricula, and debates around play vs. structure, literacy, and phonics within Wales' reform landscape. Notable moments come from cross-institution collaboration, critical takes on accountability and funding, and practical takeaways for student teachers and early-career teachers. The format often features two regular segments alongside a main discussion with guests, plus occasional policy-focused roundtables or election-related epis... more

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1. Sioned Dafydd
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3. Joe Brown
4. Tim Clark
5. Gareth Evans
6. Donald Mbeutcha
7. Sara Gattward
8. David Didow

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