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Secrets and Spies sits at the intersection of intelligence, covert action, real-world espionage, and broader geopolitics in a way that is digestible but serious. Hosted by filmmaker Chris Carr and writer Matt Fulton, each episode unpacks global events through the lens of intelligence and geopolitics, featuring expert insights from former spies, authors, and analysts. Tune in for balanced, critical... more

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After a midterm wave handed Democrats both houses of Congress, Chris and Matt, espresso martinis in hand, ask what the result changes for American national security. Matt lays out what the new majorities gain in January, from subpoenas to the defense... more

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Keir Giles has spent his career explaining why Russia does what it does, as an adviser to governments and a senior fellow in Chatham House’s Russia and Eurasia Programme. He returns to talk with Chris about his new book, American Overthrow: Moscow’s ... more

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Chris and Matt open with two reports, from the Washington Post and Politico, that point to a more aggressive Pentagon intelligence posture: a planned deep-cover program with officers posing as businesspeople as part of economic warfare against China,... more

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Former U.S. Army counterintelligence special agent Pete Turner joins Chris for a conversation about what human intelligence actually looks like on the ground. Turner’s career ran from post–Cold War Germany and Bosnia through Egypt in the weeks after ... more

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Keir Giles
Russia specialist, adviser to governments and senior fellow in Chatham House's Russia and Eurasia Programme.
Chatham House
Episode: Moscow’s Endgame in Its Long War with Washington, American Overthrow | Keir Giles
Pete Turner
Former U.S. Army counterintelligence special agent and host of Break It Down Show.
Break It Down Show
Episode: The Human Side of Counterintelligence | Pete A. Turner former US Army Intelligence
Joby Warrick
Two-time Pulitzer Prize winner and former Washington Post national security correspondent
The Washington Post
Episode: Carlos the Jackal and the Return of Terror for Hire | Joby Warrick
Sam Lichtenstein
Director of analysis at the global risk intelligence firm RANE.
RANE
Episode: What the Next 10 Years Look Like: China, Russia, Europe and AI | Sam Lichtenstein RANE
Gil Durán
Journalist and author of The Nerd Reich; adviser-turned-writer on Silicon Valley politics
Author of The Nerd Reich
Episode: The Nerd Reich | Gil Durán
Rory Carroll
Journalist and author
Guardian Foreign Correspondent (as referenced in the episode)
Episode: A Rebel, a Traitor, and the Birth of the IRA | Rory Carroll
Katie S. Sanders
Author and journalist
Author of Ortiz's War
Episode: Ortiz’s War: The Most Decorated Marine in the OSS | Nicholas Reynolds & Katie S. Sanders
Nicholas Reynolds
Author and historian
Author of Ortiz's War
Episode: Ortiz’s War: The Most Decorated Marine in the OSS | Nicholas Reynolds & Katie S. Sanders
Katherine Dunn
Author and journalist
Author of Little Blue Dot
Episode: How GPS Became a Weapon | Katherine Dunn

Hosts

Chris Carr
Filmmaker developing spy dramas and creator of the short film The Dry Cleaner
Matt Fulton
Novelist and screenwriter, author of the Active Measures geopolitical thriller series

Reviews

4.3 out of 5 stars from 570 ratings
  • The Human Side of Counterintelligence

    Absolutely fascinating. I heard pearls for establishing rapport in all sorts of human interactions.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    JLAbbey64
    United States20 days ago
  • Feels like I’m listening to the BBC

    Very status quo establishment and mid takes, naive good guy vs bad aka left vs right view of the world.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    Aestaus
    Australia25 days ago
  • Great show!

    Chris is a professional podcast host and he cares about the content and his guests. He did an excellent job and I was honored on to be on the show… and am avid listener too! -Sean

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Wissers73
    United States6 months ago
  • Best level headed show on the subject

    Presenters are well prepared. Points discussed and argued logically and as neutral as possible when covering multiple aspects and sides of current affairs and historic espionage topics. Always insightful! Keep it up!!!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    PabzMaldini
    United Kingdom6 months ago
  • False labeling

    I had subscribed to this podcast a while back but was not a regular listener. I tended to put them in the queue but somehow always pushed them back. Finally, I got to listen to a handful of them. The episode descriptions look enticing but when you get down yo listening to them they are crashingly disappointing.

    The host has a nice manner about him but then you realize he’s just a pushover. He needs to give us what’s on the tin. Take this recent episode with John Sipher, apparently ex-CIA, but ... more

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    2
    sidneyhart
    United States9 months ago

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Some listeners criticize the political commentary as biased or too establishment-oriented, while others find the hosts' analysis balanced.
A recurring negative note is that some interviews can feel too general or insufficiently focused on the promised intelligence subject.
The mix of intelligence interviews, historical context and current geopolitical analysis is valued for being informative and accessible.
Listeners often praise the hosts as prepared, thoughtful and measured, especially in discussions that consider multiple perspectives.
Several listeners highlight compelling guests, thorough background research and the Espresso Martini format.

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Moscow’s Endgame in Its Long War with Washington, American Overthrow | Keir Giles
Q: What are the consequences of losing experienced people and dismantling the structures that help the US understand and respond to the threats around the world, including threats from Russia?
Giles says weakening agencies and removing election-protection offices reduces US defenses and can distort intelligence when officials fear professional consequences for identifying Russia as a threat.
Moscow’s Endgame in Its Long War with Washington, American Overthrow | Keir Giles
Q: When you look at the changes under Donald Trump's second administration, what do you see is the clearest evidence of that?
Giles points to the sidelining of competing centers of power and the concentration of authority in the presidency, which he compares with Putin's consolidation of power in Russia.
Carlos the Jackal and the Return of Terror for Hire | Joby Warrick
Q: What worries you most about the version of Carlos that's coming?
Warrick says terrorist tactics keep adapting around security measures. He is especially concerned that AI could help groups create more potent weapons and devise new ways to evade security, while enabling individuals to act on their own.
Carlos the Jackal and the Return of Terror for Hire | Joby Warrick
Q: Sketch that younger man for us. Who was Ilich Ramírez Sánchez, this Venezuelan kid who somehow made himself the face of a Palestinian cause he had no obvious claim to?
Warrick says Carlos came from a relatively comfortable Venezuelan family, moved to the Middle East to become a revolutionary and joined a Palestinian faction as civil war was breaking out. He saw himself as a Che Guevara-like figure, regardless of which cause he served.
What the Next 10 Years Look Like: China, Russia, Europe and AI | Sam Lichtenstein RANE
Q: What can you tell us about AI and where we see things going with that?
He expects AI to affect white-collar work and nearly every industry over the decade, creating new jobs while also causing a difficult transition. He also sees U.S.–China competition over AI as a major geopolitical issue.

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Weekly conversations connect intelligence and espionage with current affairs, geopolitics and the history behind major security issues. Chris Carr, a filmmaker, and Matt Fulton, a novelist and screenwriter, alternate between interviews with specialists and Espresso Martini discussions of several current stories. Guests include former intelligence and military personnel, journalists, authors, analysts and museum experts, who bring professional experience or research to subjects ranging from counterintelligence and covert operations to technology, terrorism and international relations. The approach pairs historical context with practical questions about present-day security, institutions and the human consequences of intelligence work. The fo... more

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