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Destination Discourse

Destination Discourse
Artificial Intelligence
Destination Marketing Organization
Myrtle Beach
Paid Media
Destination Marketing Organizations
Branding
Destination Marketing
DMO
AI In Marketing
Tourism
Owned Media
Earned Media
Dmos
Claude Cowork
Product Development
Board Governance
Supply Chain
Las Vegas
Digital Display Advertising
Adgenuity

Destination Discourse is the essential podcast for DMOs and travel industry professionals who want to stay ahead in destination marketing, stewardship, and management. Hosted by industry experts Stuart Butler and Adam Stoker, each episode delves into the key issues and trends shaping the future of tourism. From cutting-edge innovations to the complex challenges of destination management, we offer ... more

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Latest Episodes

Every DMO panel is a highlight reel - so why does no one ever mention what didn't work? Returning guest Dan Gibson (Visit McMinnville) joins Stuart Butler and Adam Stoker to make the case that destination marketing's biggest blind spot isn't failure ... more

Every vendor in the industry suddenly has an "AI visibility score" to sell you. Stuart Butler and Adam Stoker dig into whether GEO (Generative Engine Optimization) is real measurement or an expensive mirage, joined by repeat guest Emily Zertuche, CDM... more

Stuart Butler and Adam Stoker step outside destination marketing to spot the trends reshaping consumer attention right now - and don't even agree on which ones matter most.

Adam opens with Reddit, still one of the most under-used channels in marketi... more

In this episode of Destination Discourse, Stuart Butler and Adam Stoker recap Adam's latest CMO Jam - a live, candid roundtable with six DMO marketing leaders - and dig into the ideas that stuck.

The biggest one: panelist Christian Mingle pushed bac... more

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Recent Guests

Will Wright
Industry professional focused on destination marketing and accreditation concepts
Destination Core / Destination Door
Episode: 91: Is Your DMO Website Still Just a Listings Page in an AI World? (Will Wright)
Dan Flores
Representative from Satisfy Labs, AI company
Satisfy Labs
Episode: 89: Is Your DMO Still Treating AI Like a Toy Instead of a Teammate? (Dan Flores)
Chris Fair
Executive at Resonance, contributor to Best Cities research
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Episode: 88: Is Your DMO Protecting Itself Into Irrelevance? (Chris Fair)
Gary Sherwin
Industry leader featuring in the episode
Visit Newport Beach
Episode: 87: Would Your Stakeholders Fight to Keep You If You Disappeared Tomorrow? (Gary Sherwin)
Jeanette Roush
Speaker from Brand USA discussing AI in tourism marketing
Brand USA
Episode: 86: Are You Still Doing Work That AI Should Be Doing For You? (Dan Holowack & Janette Roush)
Dan Gibson
Guest, presumably a DMO leader from Visit McMinnville
Visit McMinnville
Episode: 84: Can DMOs Fill the Void Left by Local Media? (Dan Gibson)
Sue O'Shea
From Visit Anaheim, adds perspective on funding models
Visit Anaheim
Episode: 83: What Is the Real Purpose of a DMO? (LIVE from DI MarCom 2026)
Ashley Mays
Leader of a combined DMO/economic development organization
Newark Alliance / Newark, NJ
Episode: 83: What Is the Real Purpose of a DMO? (LIVE from DI MarCom 2026)
Dan Holowack
Executive involved with CrowdRiff, AI tools integration
CrowdRiff
Episode: 82: What Should DMOs Actually Be Doing With AI Right Now? (Janette Roush and Dan Holowack)

Hosts

Stuart Butler
Host of Destination Discourse, with affiliations spanning Visit Myrtle Beach and related DMOs; frequent on-air collaboration with co-hosts to discuss AI, governance, and industry strategy.
Adam Stoker
Co-host, founder/CEO roles discussed on show; frequent guest with affiliations to Brand Revolt, Madden Media, Tourism IQ, and DMO-focused initiatives.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 23 ratings
  • Essential listening for destination marketers

    Super smart people discussing the challenges of our industry. Not just dudes talking, but conversations with people of different walks in this industry.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    beezbo
    United States3 months ago
  • Big fan of Stu’s News

    I wish I could grow two more hands so I could give this podcast four thumbs up.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Destie Roush
    United States4 months ago
  • A Must Listen for DMO Professionals

    Stuart and Adam are not only fun to listen too, but they offer up valuable insights and ideas. Every podcast sparks an a-ha moment and provides inspiration. They have fantastic guests and do a great job keeping us updated on trends in our industry. Make this a mandatory listen for your team!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Travel_Guru
    United States8 months ago
  • One of my favorite industry podcasts!

    I just wanted to say that this is one of my favorite destination marketing podcasts. The format of the podcast really lends itself to seeing all sides of an issue. The show is a great resource for everyone in the destination marketing industry. I never miss an episode.

    Stu's news and the jingle is definitely one of the best segments in all of podcasting!

    Desty Nation!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Nate Gresock
    United Statesa year ago
  • The greatest show for DMOs

    I have to say, I’m incredibly proud of my son for hosting such a fantastic podcast… but let’s be real, Stuart is the true star of the show! His insights are razor-sharp, his voice is smooth as butter, and he just gets destination marketing in a way that keeps me coming back for more.

    Now, don’t get me wrong—Adam is doing his best, bless his heart. He brings great energy, and I’m sure he tries very hard. But Stuart? That’s where the magic happens. If you’re looking for expert-level tourism marke... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Adams Actual Mom
    United Statesa year ago

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Guests consistently bring practical, real-world examples for DMOs.
Hosts balance optimism with critical questions on AI and governance.
Shows mix rigorous industry insights with humor and accessibility.
Community-centric discussions make it a top resource for destination marketers.

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88: Is Your DMO Protecting Itself Into Irrelevance? (Chris Fair)
Q: What role does leadership culture play in the success of these cross-organizational efforts?
Strong, vision-driven leaders who value teamwork over credit and actively foster partnerships across tourism, economic development, and chambers are essential to breaking silos and driving durable prosperity.
88: Is Your DMO Protecting Itself Into Irrelevance? (Chris Fair)
Q: How should DMOs begin collaborating with economic development and other partners to move from siloed work to integrated place development?
Leaders should adopt a collaborative mindset at the top, align on shared community goals, and formalize relationships (e.g., MOUs or merged structures) to enable joint branding, product development, and investment strategies, supported by data from the resonance reports.
88: Is Your DMO Protecting Itself Into Irrelevance? (Chris Fair)
Q: Do you map deficits in livability, lovability, or prosperity to concrete levers that DMOs can pull, and does the report provide a rubric for action?
Yes. The report includes a simple scatterplot and guidance showing when perception and performance are in balance, when there is a perception deficit, or when perception exceeds performance, with recommended focus areas for each case, such as marketing, product development, or investment attraction.
43: Is It Time to Rethink Agency Models and the Marketing Funnel? (Dan Janes)
Q: What is your pet peeve or friction point in the industry?
Dan argues that RFPs are optimized for the past and over-emphasize inputs over outcomes, which constrains agencies from showing true capability. He advocates for outcome-based RFPs and cross-functional, agile teams that can adapt to rapid changes in technology and consumer behavior.
45: Where Should DMO CEOs Be Spending Their Time? (Kristen Adamo)
Q: What role does public communications play for a DMO CEO?
Clear, consistent communication—op-eds, presentations, and regular stakeholder updates—builds trust with politicians, partners, and the public, helping secure support for long-term initiatives and funding.

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What is Destination Discourse about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Destination Discourse centers on destination marketing, AI adoption in DMOs, governance, and the evolving role of technology in tourism. Episodes frequently explore practical frameworks for organizational change, data-driven storytelling, and partnerships with industry players to improve visitor experiences while managing budgets and risk. The show stands out for its hands-on conversations with practitioners, a candid culture, and a willingness to challenge conventional approaches in public-facing marketing. Listeners are likely to gain actionable playbooks on AI governance, cross-team collaboration, and innovative program design, making it a strong fit for senior marketers, DMOs, and travel-industry leaders looking to modernize operations ... more

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Recent guests on Destination Discourse include:

1. Will Wright
2. Dan Flores
3. Chris Fair
4. Gary Sherwin
5. Jeanette Roush
6. Dan Gibson
7. Sue O'Shea
8. Ashley Mays

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