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Death of an Artist

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In February 2024, celebrated children’s book author and illustrator Petra Mathers and her husband, photographer Michael Mathers, mailed letters to dozens of friends and family members to let them know they had died by suicide. Petra and Michael were by all accounts healthy, happy, and in love. Why did they choose to die together? And what did that decision do to the people left to mourn them?

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Recent Guests

Lucy Kalanithi
Author and widow of Paul Kalanithi, physician and author of When Breath Becomes Air
Episode: From A Slight Change of Plans: “I Will Never Leave You”
Karin Tempel
Petra and Michael acquaintance since early days in Oregon
Episode: Episode 6: By the Time You Get This Letter
Jessica Schleif
Hand tool gardener who visited the Mathers garden
Episode: Episode 6: By the Time You Get This Letter
Barbara Hansel
Friend who attended gatherings with Petra
Episode: Episode 6: By the Time You Get This Letter
Tillman Richter
Friend connected to Petra and Michael, referenced in letters
Episode: Episode 6: By the Time You Get This Letter
Ursula Mathers-Nirtzsch
Michael Mathers' younger sister
Mathers family
Episode: Episode 5: We Are Without Fear
Gero Gerwig
Petra's half-brother
Petra's family
Episode: Episode 5: We Are Without Fear
Locker McCarthy
Former classmate of Mike Mathers, close friend
Middlesex School (alumnus)
Episode: Episode 4: Bird on a Wire
Birdie Emerson
Friend/associate who knew Petra and Mike over the years
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Episode: Episode 4: Bird on a Wire

Hosts

Leon Neyfakh
Host and interviewer of the series with a documentary-style approach
Alice Gregory
Co-host and interviewer, focused on guiding conversations with guests
Lee Krasner
Referenced in related seasons; not a primary host; kept for completeness

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 2.4k ratings
  • What was the point?

    Completely not edited. Amateurish in the worst ways. Includes their kid for no practical or story-telling reason. Never really gets to the point. Plays up debunked, nonsense views of the topic. The couple episodes I sat through were an entire waste of time.

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    'Morph
    United States22 days ago
  • No

    This was the most disjointed telling of a story I’ve ever heard. The recordings of the child were ridiculous as they had no relevance.

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    Champagne Socialist
    United States25 days ago
  • Season 3 was excellent

    I finished season three a couple days ago and thought about what to say for a while. I support euthanasia. That being said I never even once considered it as a means to end life for fear of becoming frail and losing the dignity you had become so used to. I still don’t think their reasonings were very wrong especially when the episodes of their family histories came up. I could very clearly see, at least in Michael’s case, why he would’ve wanted to make that choice.

    However we all know that dea... more

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    bunnyreebs
    United Statesa month ago
  • Needs Editing

    Some judicious cutting would help move the story along. Extraneous material frustrates a listener.

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    Mary From Canada
    Canadaa month ago
  • Wasted Potential

    Season 3: The story is riveting the execution was sorely lacking. I researched and listened to other articles in an effort to dive deeper and get better prospective. The addition of the narrators toddler completely ruined the podcast for me. I would be interested to know if anyone found having a baby in the podcast value added at all.

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    HiDsrtGrrl
    United States2 months ago

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Listeners praise intimate, emotionally resonant storytelling and strong interview skills.
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Audience frequently highlights the depth of survivor perspectives and archival material.
Some criticism centers on pacing or perceived narrator/host focus in certain episodes.

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#144
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#107
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#62
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#89
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#154
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#152
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Talking Points

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From A Slight Change of Plans: “I Will Never Leave You”
Q: What was it like to prepare for Paul's death and to find meaning after losing him?
Lucy describes balancing caregiving, work on Paul's book, and caring for their daughter, finding meaning through writing, memory, and continued love, guided by philosophical ideas about work, love, and suffering and the belief that meaning can sustain you through loss.
From A Slight Change of Plans: “I Will Never Leave You”
Q: Can you bring me back to Paul's final day? What was that final day like with Paul and Katie and the rest of your family?
The day was chaotic medically, but lucid moments allowed Paul to express his wishes, emphasizing not wanting a ventilator and wanting to go home if possible, and ultimately making space for Katie to be present; the moment of acceptance and the decision to stop intervention came with a quiet, brave clarity.
Episode 6: By the Time You Get This Letter
Q: Would you mind reading the German-English letter to us?
Karin Tempel reads the letter, noting it was carefully planned, with Michael researching and preparing everything; the reading reveals themes of life, death, and the afterlife with a marginal note about the afterlife.
Episode 6: By the Time You Get This Letter
Q: How old were you when you first met them?
The respondent said they were probably in their late 20s to 30s when they first met Petra and Michael.
From Deep Cover: The Family Man
Q: What did the raid reveal about the family dynamics and the father's double life?
The raid exposed deep untruths, the father's split life, and how the children learned to navigate a suddenly harsh new reality.

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What is Death of an Artist about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A multi-voice, documentary-style series that centers on intimate conversations with friends, family, and colleagues of Petra and Michael Mathers, exploring aging, grief, memory, and the ethical and emotional complexities around choosing to die together. Across seasons, the show blends personal anecdotes, archival materials, and letters to illuminate how a couple's public creative life intersects with private decisions and how their choices ripple through a close-knit circle. Noteworthy is the careful, non-sensational approach that foregrounds survivor perspectives and the broader cultural questions raised by acts of farewell, making it compelling for listeners interested in art, relationships, mortality, and ethical storytelling.

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5. Tillman Richter
6. Ursula Mathers-Nirtzsch
7. Gero Gerwig
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