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Counsel to Counsel - Career Advice for Lawyers

Stephen Seckler: attorney career, marketing and leadership coach
Legal Marketing
Career Satisfaction
Networking
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Lawyers
Marketing Strategies
Career Transitions
Career Development
Business Development
Longevity Revolution
Perfectionism
Strategic Marketing Plans
Retirement Planning
Artificial Intelligence
Relationship Marketing
Positive Psychology
Mental Health
Ageism
Client Identification
Attorney Well-Being

Counsel to Counsel is a periodic podcast produced by Stephen Seckler of Seckler Attorney Coaching (www.seckler.com). It addresses important career, marketing, and leadership issues facing attorneys. The target audience is associates, counsel and partners at law firms of all sizes; but the podcast also addresses issues that are relevant to in-house counsel, law students or any lawyer who is looking... more

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In this episode, Steve Seckler speaks with Amy Mariani, a Boston-based mediator and former litigator. She shares her deeply personal journey navigating her professional life alongside caring for her mother with dementia. Her story offers valuable gui... more

In this episode, Gary Miles delves into the pervasive issue of burnout in the legal profession and offers practical strategies for establishing healthy boundaries. Drawing from his extensive experience, Gary discusses the role of perfectionism and fe... more

Legal operations has evolved from a back-office function into a strategic discipline that is reshaping how legal services are delivered. In this conversation, Stephen Seckler speaks with legal operations consultant Jeff Kruse about how technology, pr... more

In this episode, Steve talks with Shauna Bryce of Bryce Legal about finding the right balance between AI tools and old-fashioned relationship-building in today's legal job market. Shauna shares concrete examples of how AI can speed up research, clari... more

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Jeff Kruse
Founder of Key Legal Operations Consulting; former Chief Litigation Officer at Boston Scientific; former partner at Shook, Hardee, and Bacon
Key Legal Operations Consulting
Episode: Episode 171-A Career in Legal Operations with Jeff Kruse
Shauna Bryce
Founder of Bryce Legal; former Chief Legal Talent Officer and Chief Diversity Officer
Bryce Legal
Episode: Episode 170-Shauna Bryce on How to use (and Not to Use) AI in a Job Search
Anthonia Berry
Legal marketing and business development strategist, and creator of Strategy Academy.
Strategy Academy
Episode: Episode 169-Creating a Blueprint to Launch Your Solo Law Practice--with Anthonia Berry
Matt Selig
Executive Director at Health Law Advocates
Health Law Advocates
Episode: Episode 168-Matt Selig of Health Law Advocates: Practicing Public Interest Law
Oran Kaufman
Owner of Amherst Mediation Services
Amherst Mediation Services
Episode: Episode 167-From Litigation to Mediation with Oran Kaufman
Saja Raoof
Immigration attorney known for creativity in legal marketing.
sar.law
Episode: Episode 166-Marketing for Introverts with Saja Raoof, Border Wall Destroyer
Steve Herman
Civil litigator and documentary filmmaker based in Vancouver, Canada.
Episode: Episode 165-Retirement on Trial with Steve Herman
Melanie Herschorn
Publisher and book marketing strategist known for helping attorneys become best-selling authors.
Episode: Episode 163- How to Use Book Publishing to Build Your Brand-with Melanie Herschorn
Philippe Danielides
Former big law associate and corporate communications consultant turned career coach.
Latham & Watkins, Founder of Blue Pen Project
Episode: Episode 162-"What Do Lawyers Really Want?" with Philippe Danielides

Host

Stephen Seckler
Host of Counsel to Counsel; founder of Seckler Attorney Coaching; long-time advisor to lawyers on career and marketing strategies; author and former leading figure in law practice management discussions.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 18 ratings
  • Great podcast!

    Steve is a terrific host and conversationalist - you learn about the ups and downs of being a lawyer, and from a great array of guests. I enjoy listening!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    lauraterrellcoaching
    United States3 years ago
  • Fantastic podcast!

    Stephen is an awesome host who shares valuable insights, a must listen!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Trevor Oldham
    United States4 years ago
  • Love this

    Very awesome podcast. I love all the information you can get in this show as well. Looking forward to hearing more episodes.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    louis.erks.ls
    Philippines5 years ago

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The host keeps conversations engaging and insightful with a clear focus on practical career growth.
High value for listeners seeking real-world steps in law marketing and career planning.
The host's experience and networking guidance come through clearly.
Quality of guests and thoughtful questions make episodes worth listening to regularly.
Guests bring diverse expertise, making complex topics accessible.

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Episode 171-A Career in Legal Operations with Jeff Kruse
Q: What are some of the challenges in getting process improvements in place, and how does your work as a mediator help you?
Resistance to change is the biggest hurdle; mediation skills help uncover why people resist, communicate the benefits, and guide them through the dip—when productivity temporarily declines—while moving toward a more efficient future state.
Episode 170-Shauna Bryce on How to use (and Not to Use) AI in a Job Search
Q: What's one smart use of AI in a job search?
Using AI to identify target employers and key decision-makers or board members, which can help you understand where your experience fits and how to approach influential people in the hiring process.
Episode 170-Shauna Bryce on How to use (and Not to Use) AI in a Job Search
Q: What do you think lawyers are getting wrong about AI?
They're trying to use AI to write resumes and career documents, which often results in generic, task-focused language; AI is better for ideation and refinement, not primary drafting of value-based content.
Episode 170-Shauna Bryce on How to use (and Not to Use) AI in a Job Search
Q: What do you think lawyers are getting right about the use of AI in the job search?
Using AI as a research tool to quickly narrow down target employers and intersectional opportunities is effective; it should supplement, not replace, strategic human networking and judgment.
Episode 169-Creating a Blueprint to Launch Your Solo Law Practice--with Anthonia Berry
Q: What is one podcast, streaming series, or book that you'd recommend for enjoyment?
My one and number one favorite book is Text is Easier Than Text by Dan Sullivan and Benjamin Hardy, which I recommend for attorneys planning to start their law practice.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Counsel to Counsel

What is Counsel to Counsel about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This show centers on career development, marketing, leadership, and practical shifts for lawyers navigating modern firms, in-house teams, and solo practice. Across episodes, listeners hear how to advance professionally, leverage technology and AI in legal work, build client development muscle, and plan long-term pivots—from operations leadership and career coaching to publishing and branding. Notable angles include strategic thinking for law firms, practical mediation and collaboration skills, and the evolving role of law firm management in a tech-enabled landscape. The format often features seasoned lawyers, consultants, and marketing experts sharing actionable frameworks, case studies, and personal journeys that help listeners grow satisf... more

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1. Jeff Kruse
2. Shauna Bryce
3. Anthonia Berry
4. Matt Selig
5. Oran Kaufman
6. Saja Raoof
7. Steve Herman
8. Melanie Herschorn

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