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Counsel to Counsel - Career Advice for Lawyers

Stephen Seckler: attorney career, marketing and leadership coach
Legal Marketing
Career Satisfaction
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Lawyers
Career Development
Coaching
Marketing Strategies
Business Development
Career Transitions
Longevity Revolution
Perfectionism
Strategic Marketing Plans
Retirement Planning
Artificial Intelligence
Positive Psychology
Relationship Marketing
Mental Health
Ageism
Client Identification
Attorney Well-Being

Counsel to Counsel is a periodic podcast produced by Stephen Seckler of Seckler Attorney Coaching (www.seckler.com). It addresses important career, marketing, and leadership issues facing attorneys. The target audience is associates, counsel and partners at law firms of all sizes; but the podcast also addresses issues that are relevant to in-house counsel, law students or any lawyer who is looking... more

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Starting your own law firm can be one of the most exciting and rewarding career moves a lawyer can make. But amid the excitement of choosing a name, finding clients, and building a practice, it's easy to overlook ethical and operational issues that c... more

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Many lawyers assume their career options begin and end with practicing law. In this episode, Steve speaks with Tony Waller, a lawyer, educator, former nonprofit CEO, and career development leader whose career demonstrates the many ways a legal educat... more

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In this episode, Steve sits down with Matt Miller to discuss Matt's unconventional journey from practicing lawyer to what he describes as an "accidental tourist" in legal recruiting. They explore why he doesn't subscribe to the familiar "recovering l... more

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In this episode, Steve Seckler speaks with Dr. Sarah Alsaidi, a psychologist, executive coach, and creator of the Brain in Mind Method, a coaching framework that integrates neuroscience and psychology to help high-performing professionals better unde... more

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Tony Waller
Lawyer, educator, nonprofit leader, and career development professional
University of Georgia School of Law; University of Illinois College of Law; nonprofit leadership roles
Episode: Episode 179: Beyond Law Firms: Careers in Law Schools and Nonprofits
Matt Miller
Lawyer, entrepreneur, recruiter, and legal industry innovator
Ascent Counsel / JOLO
Episode: Episode 178-Becoming a Legal Recruiter: Navigating an Alternative Legal Career with Matt Miller
Sarah Alsaidi
Psychologist, executive coach and creator of the Brain in Mind Method
Sarah Alsaidi Consulting
Episode: Episode 177-Understanding Executive Functioning and Its Impact on Lawyers' Performance
Paul Karvanis
Coach, speaker, author; founder of Leader Rising; creator of The Happy Lawyer Project
Leader Rising; The Happy Lawyer Project
Episode: Episode 176-What Makes for a Happy Lawyer or Successful Associate?
Scott Love
Top legal recruiter; host of the Rainmaking Podcast
Attorney Search Group (and related divisions)
Episode: Episode 175-Making Strategic Lateral Moves: Insights for Law Firm Partners from a Top Legal Recruiter
John Kormanik
Professional Certified Coach who works with lawyers; former attorney and law firm owner
Independent coach for lawyers; author
Episode: Episode 174-How Self-Awareness Increases Your Effectiveness in Managing Your Legal Team
Amy Mariani
Boston-based mediator and former trial lawyer; specializes in employment, personal injury, and business disputes; author and facilitator on elder care and mediation
Mariani Mediation
Episode: Episode 173-Managing a Demanding Career While Caring for an Aging Parent
Gary Miles
Veteran trial lawyer, managing partner, author, and success coach
Gary Miles, LLC
Episode: Episode 172-Boundaries, Burnout, and Building a Sustainable Legal Career with Gary Miles
Jeff Kruse
Founder of Key Legal Operations Consulting; former Chief Litigation Officer at Boston Scientific; former partner at Shook, Hardee, and Bacon
Key Legal Operations Consulting
Episode: Episode 171-A Career in Legal Operations with Jeff Kruse

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Stephen Seckler
Host of Counsel to Counsel, Career coaching for lawyers

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 18 ratings
  • Great podcast!

    Steve is a terrific host and conversationalist - you learn about the ups and downs of being a lawyer, and from a great array of guests. I enjoy listening!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    lauraterrellcoaching
    United States3 years ago
  • Fantastic podcast!

    Stephen is an awesome host who shares valuable insights, a must listen!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Trevor Oldham
    United States4 years ago
  • Love this

    Very awesome podcast. I love all the information you can get in this show as well. Looking forward to hearing more episodes.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    louis.erks.ls
    Philippines5 years ago

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High-quality guests who bring real-world experience.
Guests cover a broad spectrum from coaching to legal tech.
Strong emphasis on practical strategies over theory.
Clear perspective on sustainable career paths for lawyers.
Insightful host with a knack for actionable career advice.

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Episode 179: Beyond Law Firms: Careers in Law Schools and Nonprofits
Q: What makes these roles rewarding beyond traditional practice?
Tony explains that the reward comes from solving meaningful problems for people, having a real impact through education and community service, and helping students and lawyers navigate career paths that align with their strengths and values.
Episode 178-Becoming a Legal Recruiter: Navigating an Alternative Legal Career with Matt Miller
Q: Can you say a little something about how you gained more perspective, who you spoke to, what advice you would give to anyone listening about who they should be speaking to?
Find trusted people who have more experience, initiate honest conversations about goals, be vulnerable, and seek out mentors or informal advisors who can offer candid guidance.
Episode 176-What Makes for a Happy Lawyer or Successful Associate?
Q: What one practical step can a lawyer take this week to start shifting things in a better direction?
Choose a small, idiosyncratic change that creates friction relief, such as carving out time in the evening for life outside work or taking a concrete step toward a personal goal, recognizing that progress often comes from tiny, consistent actions rather than waiting for perfection.
Episode 176-What Makes for a Happy Lawyer or Successful Associate?
Q: What is the Happy Lawyer Project?
The project surveys lawyers to understand patterns that lead to happiness, emphasizing a practical approach: awareness followed by action, and a loop of reflection and execution that helps lawyers live well while pursuing excellence.
Episode 176-What Makes for a Happy Lawyer or Successful Associate?
Q: Paul, why don't you tell us a little bit about what you do?
Paul describes his shift from practicing law to coaching, speaking, and authoring, focusing on helping high-performing professionals maintain performance while achieving happiness. He explains his work with Leader Rising and The Happy Lawyer Project, which investigates what differentiates thriving lawyers from those who burn out.

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This show centers on career development, leadership, marketing, and strategic transitions within the legal profession. Episodes commonly feature seasoned lawyers, career coaches, mediators, and legal marketers who share practical frameworks for improving job satisfaction, preventing burnout, and growing law practices or in-house teams. Guests discuss topics like self-awareness, work-life balance, AI in recruiting and practice management, and building sustainable careers—often through structured coaching, boundary-setting, and innovative approaches to marketing and operations. A notable strength is its breadth of guest expertise, ranging from career coaching and legal operations to entrepreneurship and publishing, all aimed at helping lawyer... more

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7. Amy Mariani
8. Gary Miles

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