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Chain of Thought | AI Agents, Infrastructure & Engineering

Conor Bronsdon
Artificial Intelligence
Generative AI
AI Agents
Software Development
Galileo
Agentic AI
Machine Learning
Spot AI
Healthcare
Multi-Agent Systems
AI Reliability
Venture Capital
AI Adoption
Open Source
Gemini
Customer Trust
Startup Culture
Language Tasks
AI Engineering
Observability

AI is reshaping infrastructure, strategy, and entire industries. Host Conor Bronsdon talks to the engineers, founders, and researchers building breakthrough AI systems about what it actually takes to ship AI in production, where the opportunities lie, and how leaders should think about the strategic bets ahead. Chain of Thought translates technical depth into actionable insights for builders and d... more

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Jerry Liu built one of the most installed pieces of AI plumbing of the last three years. LlamaIndex became the indexing and retrieval layer a whole generation of RAG apps were stitched together with. Then he started arguing that the framework era he ... more

Tyler Akidau spent 12 years on streaming systems at Google and five years at Snowflake before joining Redpanda as CTO. He wrote the O'Reilly Streaming Systems book most of the field has on its shelf. His new piece on O'Reilly Radar (Post-Human: We Al... more

Loïc Houssier leads engineering at Superhuman, the email client Grammarly acquired for ~$825 million in July 2025. Before Superhuman he was CTO of OpenTrust (acquired by DocuSign), ran engineering at ProductBoard, and started his career in applied cr... more

Job applications are up 239% since ChatGPT launched, tech layoffs show no signs of slowing down, and the market for technical talent is a topsy turvy mess. 

Greenhouse has a unique vantage point to understand all of this: they process 22 million job... more

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Recent Guests

Jerry Liu
Co-founder and CEO of LlamaIndex
LlamaIndex
Episode: The AI Framework Era Is Over: Why Context Is the Moat | Jerry Liu
Tyler Akidau
CTO of Red Panda; veteran at Google and Snowflake; author and researcher on streaming systems
Red Panda
Episode: We Built Agents, Nobody Built HR | Tyler Akidau, Redpanda
Loïc Houssier
CTO of Superhuman Mail
Superhuman
Episode: How Superhuman Built AI Into a 100ms Product | Loïc Houssier
Daniel Chait
CEO and co-founder of Greenhouse
Greenhouse
Episode: The AI Hiring Doom Loop: Applications Up 239%, Hires Down 75%
Alex Ratner
CEO of Snorkel AI
Snorkel AI
Episode: Every AI Agent Has an Evaluation Gap | Alex Ratner, Snorkel AI
Sudhir Hasbe
President and Chief Product Officer at Neo4j
Neo4j
Episode: Hallucinations Are a Data Architecture Problem | Sudhir Hasbe, Neo4j
Dan Klein
Co-founder and CTO of Scaled Cognition; UC Berkeley professor
Scaled Cognition; UC Berkeley NLP group
Episode: Why LLMs Are Plausibility Engines, Not Truth Engines | Dan Klein
Richmond Alake
Director of AI Developer Experience at Oracle
Oracle
Episode: Agent Memory: The Last Battleground in the AI Stack | Richmond Alake, Oracle
Michel Tricot
CEO and co-founder of Airbyte
Airbyte
Episode: Context Poisoning Is Killing Your AI Agents: How to Stop It

Host

Conor Bronsdon
Host and angel investor focused on AI and developer tools; Head of Technical Ecosystem at Modular, with previous leadership roles in AI startups.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 145 ratings
  • A Must Listen for Anyone Entering AI Space

    New to the AI space and this podcast has been a game changer. Conor brings in leading experts and breaks down complex topics in a way that actually makes sense. Whether you’re a college student just discovering AI, a curious newcomer, or already deep in the field — Chain of Thought fills a real gap. Conor is also just a genuinely great person — it comes through in every episode. Highly recommend.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Teo of the West
    United States2 months ago
  • always well researched

    Conor does a great job of bringing the most relevant convos to the table, proving that timing + quality wins every time. have this on auto-download

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    sk8
    United States2 months ago
  • Excellent Resource for AI Insight and Great Ear Feel

    Always a pleasant and informative listen. Do I want to drift off to sleep to the sound of Conor’s voice? Absolutely! But can I? NO! Because I’m absolutely riveted by the education and insight. Can’t stop won’t stop listening to this podcast.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    IHeartPonycorns
    United States3 months ago
  • Cutting-edge AI insights

    Conor does a great job finding excellent guests and letting them talk about how they use AI. In a fast-changing world, Chain of Thought is a key part of my podcast routine to stay in touch.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    gbronsdon
    United States3 months ago
  • Thought provoking

    Really enjoyed it

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    d1ngd0ng
    United States3 months ago

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Every AI Agent Has an Evaluation Gap | Alex Ratner, Snorkel AI
Q: How has data-centric AI evolved at Snorkel, and why is data now central to AI development?
Over the years Snorkel shifted from labeling to building data environments and benchmarks, arguing that data—not just models—drives AI progress. The focus is on expert-driven data and environments to measure, tune, and improve agents, and to scale AI in production while ensuring reliable evaluation across complex tasks.
Every AI Agent Has an Evaluation Gap | Alex Ratner, Snorkel AI
Q: Can you tell us more about what Snorkel's Open Benchmarks grant program is aiming to fund?
The program provides grants for teams building benchmarks in open public settings, focused on three major axes—environment/input complexity, autonomy horizon, and output complexity—and is designed to accelerate collaboration with academic and open-source teams, with initial funding of $3 million and plans to expand.
Why LLMs Are Plausibility Engines, Not Truth Engines | Dan Klein
Q: What should enterprises focus on beyond benchmarks?
Enterprises should focus on reliability and the ability to ship under real-world constraints, including consistency across varied scenarios, auditable decision trails, and governance aligned with business risk—metrics that reflect true shipability rather than just benchmark scores.
Why LLMs Are Plausibility Engines, Not Truth Engines | Dan Klein
Q: How is APT1 architected differently to address reliability?
APT1 is built around information and actions, with metacognition and explicit semantics for actions; it uses data geared toward agentic tasks, tool use, and policy compliance, enabling stronger guarantees than token-only models.
Why LLMs Are Plausibility Engines, Not Truth Engines | Dan Klein
Q: What causes the gap between AI demos and reliable production systems?
The gap arises because current LLMs produce plausible outputs without guaranteed correctness or adherence to policies, so production needs architecture and data designed for reliability, with auditable traces and explicit action-capable capabilities rather than token-level outputs.

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Focusing on the intersection of artificial intelligence and technological infrastructure, conversations spotlight thought leaders, engineers, and innovators who are revolutionizing industry practices through advanced AI systems. Insights cover a wide range of topics including eval engineering, real-world AI applications in various sectors, misconceptions surrounding AI's environmental impact, and the engineering challenges posed by deploying AI solutions. The discussions emphasize actionable strategies for leaders and builders looking to navigate the complex landscape of AI technologies while underscoring both innovations and potential pitfalls. Unique to this series is its commitment to translating technical discussions into practical insi... more

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