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Join us for thought provoking conversations on surveillance, digital privacy, and cybersecurity law and policy in the information age. Each week, hosts Dave Bittner and Ben Yelin break down the headlines, legal cases, and policy battles that matter most.

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This week, Dave and Ben sit down with N2K's lead analyst Ethan Cook to look at the growing calls to enact AI regulations both within the US and across the globe. Spurned on by recent model escapes, policymakers and AI developers alike have steadily ... more

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This week, Dave and Ben look at two major AI stories. The first involves Anthropic winning one of its legal challenges regarding the Pentagon designating the company as a supply chain risk. The second story looks at a recent law introduced in Congre... more

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Recent Guests

Mike Britton
CIO at Abnormal AI
Abnormal AI
Episode: Flipping AI’s kill switch.
Johnny Hand
From trend.ai, discussed AI and human context
trend.ai
Episode: Breaking big tech’s hold.
Asha Palmer
Senior Vice President of Compliance Solutions, Skillsoft
Skillsoft
Episode: AI’s latest security wake-up call.
Arvind Nitharkashayap
CTO and co-founder of Rubrik
Rubrik
Episode: AI sovereignty and surveillance.
Brad Carson
Former congressman and president of Americans for Responsible Innovation
Americans for Responsible Innovation (ARI)
Episode: Drawing a digital line for geofencing.
Dr. Liz James
Managing Security Consultant
NCC Group
Episode: Sony's failed attempt to stop piracy.
Jen Sovada
Public Sector General Manager at Claroty; former US Air Force Colonel
Claroty
Episode: Trump’s AI Preemption Playbook.
Jean-Paul Bergeaux
Chief Technology Officer for Federal
GuidePoint Security
Episode: The SBOM where it happens.
Tony Scott
CEO of Intrusion and former federal CIO, with a background at VMware, Microsoft, and the Walt Disney Company
Intrusion
Episode: The algorithm is writing the rulebook now.

Hosts

Ben Yelin
Co-host; law professor and legal commentator with a focus on privacy, surveillance, and policy.
Dave Bittner
Host; security journalist and analyst focusing on cyber policy, privacy law, and tech governance.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 134 ratings
  • Insightful and relevant

    This is one of my favorite podcast with a lot of regulation and privacy content that is not very common

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Maocol99
    United Statesa year ago
  • Good content but with a nauseating liberal bias

    Cyberwire Pro subscriber. The cases and discussions are informative but when it comes to the opinions expressed they are overwhelmingly left-leaning in political persuasion. The co-host attorney is your typical condescending coastal liberal elite professor type. I truly wish it was politically neutral. I will continue listening but will continue to hit skip when it comes to the nauseating hot takes.

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    Tyson Eats
    United States3 years ago
  • I now can listen again! Great podcast! It now plays using VPNs with anti malware/anti tracking VPNs.

    I now can listen again! Great podcast! It now plays using VPNs with anti malware/anti tracking VPNs.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    [REDACTED] USER
    United States3 years ago
  • Podcast doesn’t play while on VPN.

    Podcast doesn’t play while on VPN. Will you please fix this? Other podcasts play without any issues. I suspect it’s a setting within how you publish your content.

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    [REDACTED] USER
    United States3 years ago
  • Great resource

    I’ve assigned several episodes to students in my Cyber Law, Policy, and Ethics class for review. They all really enjoy the podcast. Thanks

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    spider280
    United States4 years ago

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Episodes are seen as informative for students and professionals alike, with actionable insights for policy and law.
Listeners praise accessible yet rigorous coverage of regulation and privacy topics.
Some feedback notes perceived political bias and calls for more neutral framing.

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Encore: HR1 and the future of U.S. tech security.
Q: Ethan, final thoughts?
HR1 is oversized and chaotic in scale, but many defense provisions align with the administration's stated goals; the controversy lies mainly in tax provisions and social safety-net cuts.
Encore: HR1 and the future of U.S. tech security.
Q: Ben, what do you make of that?
The discussion centers on the bill's defense emphasis, its speed of passage, and how it reflects broader policy priorities, including foreign investments and strategic posture.
Encore: HR1 and the future of U.S. tech security.
Q: What is the Big Beautiful Bill, and why is it generating so much debate?
It is HR1, a sweeping defense and economic package aimed at modernizing the military, expanding tech procurement, and reshaping tax and social programs, which has triggered debate over deficits, social spending, and foreign policy implications.
AI sovereignty and surveillance.
Q: What is CAIDA and why does it matter for cloud providers?
CAIDA establishes a tiered, EU-wide sovereignty framework for cloud services, potentially restricting access for US providers in sensitive contracts and shifting where data can be hosted and controlled.
Drawing a digital line for geofencing.
Q: What does this mean for whether warrants are required to access location data from smartphones?
The decision confirms that location data generated by smartphones constitutes a Fourth Amendment search, requiring a warrant to access, with ongoing questions about the exact nature of that warrant.

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