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Catalog & Cocktails: The Honest, No-BS Data Podcast

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Data Governance
Data Management
Artificial Intelligence
Data Quality
Generative AI
AI Governance
Knowledge Graphs
Data Products
Change Management
Data Analytics
Data Engineering
Metadata Management
Data Observability
Data Catalogs
Data Strategy
Machine Learning
Data Product Management
AI Readiness
Data Mesh
Large Language Models

Catalog and Cocktails is the honest, No-BS, non-sales-y podcast about data and analytics. This is your unfiltered chat about everything interesting in data and analytics. Join Juan Sequeda and Tim Gasper to explore emerging topics and hear from thought leaders, practitioners and executives across the data and analytics space.

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Can't believe it's already been 6 years. Thank you to our amazing guests and specially our listeners. In this season finale episode, Juan and Tim rant about the honest no-bs discussions they've had in 2026 and what are the topics they are looking for... more

Jason Doerr has spent years watching governance programs undermine themselves by cataloging everything without a use case, naming data stewards who have nothing to actually do, and building central teams that become blockers instead of enablers. In t... more

This is the takeaway episode with Jason Doerr who has spent years watching governance programs undermine themselves. He walks through what pragmatic governance actually looks like and digs into PADU (Preferred, Acceptable, Discouraged, Unacceptable) ... more

Bob Seiner has spent decades in data governance, and in this episode he joins Juan and Tim to unpacks his new framework, Data Catalyst Cubed, which multiplies data governance by change management and data fluency. Miss any one of them, and you get ze... more

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Jason Doerr
Data governance expert discussed in the episode
Episode: Pragmatic Use-Case-Driven Data Governance with Jason Doerr
Bob Seiner
President and principal of KIK Consulting Educational Services; CMU faculty
KIK Consulting Educational Services; Carnegie Mellon University
Episode: Data Catalyst³: Governance × Change Management × Data Fluency w/ Bob Seiner
Victoria Gamerman
Data executive and consultant; founder of Human-Center Transformation, RWD Insights
Human-Center Transformation / RWD Insights
Episode: AI Governance Isn't Compliance. It's About Humans with Victoria Gamerman
Diana Wu-David
Director of Futures at ServiceNow
ServiceNow
Episode: AI Appetite Is Easy, Digestion Is Hard with Diana Wu David
Amalia Child
Librarian with data/enablement focus; frequent contributor on data-literacy topics
Two-Timer Club guest; librarian background
Episode: Think Like a Librarian: Why the Reference Interview Is the Framework Data Teams Are Missing with Jenna Jordan and Amalia Child
Jenna Jordan
Advocate for librarians and contributor in the dbt community; voices the library perspective in data
dbt community advocate
Episode: Think Like a Librarian: Why the Reference Interview Is the Framework Data Teams Are Missing with Jenna Jordan and Amalia Child
Pete Williams
Very experienced data leader
(not explicitly stated)
Episode: The Void Between Data and Decisions with Pete Williams
Jesus Barrasa
A longtime figure in graphs, knowledge management, and semantic technologies; currently with Neo4j
Neo4j
Episode: Juan & Tim rant w/ Jesus Barrasa about Ontologies, Knowledge Graphs, Context Graphs and AI
Kyle Winterbottom
CEO and founder of Orbitian Group
Orbitian Group
Episode: The Wrong Mandate: Why Boards Set Data & AI to Fail with Kyle Winterbottom

Hosts

Juan Sequeda
Co-host and host; long-time data and analytics educator and practitioner with deep expertise in data governance, catalogs, and enterprise data strategy.
Tim Gasper
Co-host and host; data practitioner and podcaster with focus on practical data governance, AI enablement, and community-driven knowledge sharing.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 100 ratings
  • Love from a fellow data nerd

    Just found this show and loving it! Would love to be a guest. I’m a data strategist and taxonomist specializing in product data. Shoot me a linkedin if interested! -Chantal Schweizer

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    fugsd
    United States3 years ago
  • Here’s to great conversations about data! 🍹

    Such a tremendous resource for anyone interested in the world of data! Juan and Tim (and all of their amazing guests) share so many valuable, actionable insights, and I learn something new every time I listen. Can’t recommend this show enough!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    oliviabaker13
    United States4 years ago
  • Awesome content; great guests

    I’ve always heard that if you want to be successful surround yourself with people who are already demonstrating success in that area.

    Juan and Tim are doing that with every episode of C&C. Great show guys. Keep ‘em coming!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    nick_nsme
    United States4 years ago
  • Excellent show and content

    These guys are awesome.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    AJ Doyle
    United States4 years ago
  • Entertaining

    Always learn something and never a dull moment. Tim and Juan are great hosts and keep it lively and entertaining!!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Laine840
    United States4 years ago

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TAKEAWAY - Think Like a Librarian: Why the Reference Interview Is the Framework Data Teams Are Missing with Jenna Jordan and Amalia Child
Q: How do we do? Anything we missed?
The team acknowledges that there is more to cover and emphasizes the need to continue refining the approach, ensuring domain expertise and a clear translation from business requests to data requirements.
AI Governance Is Everyone's Problem (And That's Actually Good News) with Kierra Dotson
Q: Will most companies have an AI collaboration charter in the next two years?
It's unlikely for most to have fully mature charters so soon; many organizations struggle with data governance and other governance domains, so widespread adoption will take time, though momentum is growing.
AI Governance Is Everyone's Problem (And That's Actually Good News) with Kierra Dotson
Q: Is AI governance harder than cybersecurity governance?
Generally similar in core concepts, but cybersecurity presents a larger, arguably infinite attack surface, making it harder in practice; AI governance is a sector within security and will continue to converge with cybersecurity practices.
AI Governance Is Everyone's Problem (And That's Actually Good News) with Kierra Dotson
Q: Should every engineer have governance somewhere in their job description?
Yes. Governance should be part of engineering responsibilities, not a separate activity, because engineers are often the first to be blamed in incidents and must build with governance in mind.
The Data Hygienist with Thais Cooke
Q: How did you get into data and what advice would you give to others trying to enter the field?
Thais describes her accidental path from dentistry to data, emphasizes self-learning (SQL, visualization tools), and stresses the value of domain expertise combined with data skills as a way to accelerate impact.

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A practical, practitioner-oriented show focused on data governance, AI governance, data architecture, and knowledge management. Episodes routinely feature industry leaders and practitioners discussing real-world challenges—bridging between data foundations and business impact, with emphasis on change management, governance models, and human-centered approaches to AI. Listeners can expect actionable frameworks, candid debates about organizational culture, and lessons from enterprise-scale data programs, often paired with lighthearted elements like cocktail moments.

Noteworthy strengths include a consistent focus on connecting governance to measurable business outcomes, a willingness to explore emerging concepts (agentic governance, producti... more

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