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Building Better CMOs and Marketing Leaders

MMA Global / LightningPod
Customer Experience
Marketing
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MMA Global
AI In Marketing
Artificial Intelligence
Personalization
Marketing Strategy
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Leadership
Financial Services
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Consumer Engagement
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Brand Marketing
Brand Loyalty
Lowe's
New York Life Insurance
Las Vegas, United States
Neuroscience

Marketing leaders are facing constant new challenges. If you want to stay ahead of the curve, listen to Building Better CMOs, from the nonprofit thinktank MMA Global. It's a podcast about the future of marketing and how marketers can get smarter & stronger, hosted by MMA CEO Greg Stuart. Greg interviews some of the wisest and most successful CMOs in the business, who share crucial insights about w... more

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"The strongest brands aren't built by chasing culture," says Alex Tomlin, regional CMO of Bacardi North America. "The strongest brands are built by earning a place within culture."

For example, Alex says, look at the story of the Gr... more

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"Any organization, any team, is going to have inherent conflict," says Dave Steer, CMO of Webflow. "The question is... Do you bring it into the room and have discussion about it, or do you not talk about it in the room, and then arou... more

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Marketing a traditional brand is one thing. Marketing an entire city — specifically, Las Vegas — is something else altogether.

For Kate Wik, CMO of the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority (LVCVA), executing a massive campaig... more

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CMOs are " really good at the M part," says Bennie Johnson, the CEO of the American Marketing Association. "We're really good at the marketing part. We struggle with the 'Chief' and the 'Officer.'"

Why is that? Some possible reasons... more

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Dave Steer
CMO of Webflow with experience in marketing, trust and team leadership
Webflow
Episode: Building Systems for Growth | Dave Steer, Webflow
Kate Wik
CMO of the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority
Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority
Episode: Fun and Marketing in Las Vegas | Kate Wik, Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority
Bennie Johnson
CEO of the American Marketing Association
American Marketing Association
Episode: Doing Marketing vs. Being a Great Marketer | Bennie Johnson, AMA
Chris Milone
CMO of A Place for Mom
A Place for Mom
Episode: The CMO as a Strategic Thought Partner | Chris Milone, A Place For Mom
Aude Gandon
Global Chief Digital and Marketing Officer, Estée Lauder
Estée Lauder Companies
Episode: AI is Not Intelligent Without Human Help (Aude Gandon, Estée Lauder)
Jennifer Wilson
Chief Marketing Officer, Lowe's
Lowe's
Episode: Leveraging Data and Building Loyalty at Lowe’s with CMO Jennifer Wilson
Amy Hu
Chief Marketing Officer at New York Life Insurance
New York Life Insurance
Episode: Embracing Measurement and Building Trust with New York Life's Amy Hu
Matt Lieberman
Chief Marketing and Business Development Officer of Cooley
Cooley
Episode: Get Specific About Marketing Results with Matt Lieberman
Armin Molavi
CMO of Instructure, Canvas
Instructure
Episode: Build Something or Fix Something with Instructure CMO Armin Molavi

Host

Greg Stuart
CEO of MMA Global and overall host of the series, frequently guiding conversations with senior CMOs and marketing leaders.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 28 ratings
  • Insightful Quality Marketing and Leadership Content

    Greg is a wonderful host and extracts informative perspectives of what it takes to be a marketing leader. Not only does the content focus on the marketing skills needed, but also the character and leadership traits required to succeed. This is a great listen for all marketers, no matter the experience.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    TommyQMa
    United States3 years ago
  • Insights, informative and entertaining.

    Quality content that is not only informative but fun to listen to. Dynamic questions and Insightful answers with practical and actionable advice for marketers. The content’s reflection of humor and candor to the marketing industry is spot on!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Andrew Somer
    United States3 years ago
  • Real

    Greg gets into real discussions about substantive topics with leading chief marketing officers, and this provides valuable insights to truly understand the state of business and marketing.

    He is great at opening up CMOs to talk candidly.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    1Prof
    United States3 years ago
  • Real, Down-to-Earth Conversations with CMOs

    “Building Better CMOs” is a wonderful view into the minds of the world’s best CMOs and is just as valuable a tool on character and leadership skills as it is on marketing strategy and insights. While these top CMOs all have different backgrounds and paths that led them to where they are today, they all share a tenacity, positivity, and real understanding of connection with their teams and consumers that is inspiring to hear (and take back to your own organization). This podcast is great for anyo... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    kchunka13
    United States3 years ago
  • Great leadership content

    Greg is a great host and love the goal of this podcast to inspire marketing leaders. Lots of things to consider and explore in my own role in the marketing ecosystem, it’s not JUST for CMOs!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Kh10388
    United States3 years ago

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Audience notes high-quality leadership content with useful frameworks for marketers.
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Viewers appreciate real-world conversations that go beyond surface-level marketing tactics.
Listeners describe the host as insightful and capable of eliciting candid, practical insights from CMOs.

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#28
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#35
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#64
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#228
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Building Systems for Growth | Dave Steer, Webflow
Q: What was some of the best insight perspective advice, if you want, that you've been given?
Steer describes a trust framework introduced by his coach: reliability plus credibility plus approachability, divided by self-orientation. He also recommends team coaching and deliberately bringing conflict into open discussion to help teams become high performing.
Building Systems for Growth | Dave Steer, Webflow
Q: Give an example from one of your clients on personalization and how that plays itself out.
Steer points to the Lando Norris website as an immersive, brand-forward experience designed to bring the team together and present the brand compellingly. He also describes Webflow Optimize, which lets marketing teams tailor website content for different audiences and use AI to optimize against selected goals.
Doing Marketing vs. Being a Great Marketer | Bennie Johnson, AMA
Q: What role do academic partnerships and journals play in advancing marketing practice?
Academic research should inform practice with real-world applicability, bridging executive-level concerns with rigorous scholarship, and providing practical guidance that CMOs can translate into action in their organizations.
Doing Marketing vs. Being a Great Marketer | Bennie Johnson, AMA
Q: How should marketing leaders evolve to be more effective in the boardroom?
They should broaden their scope beyond traditional marketing tasks, engage in cross-disciplinary learning (finance, operations, HR), and push for leadership roles that influence overall business strategy, not just marketing campaigns.
Doing Marketing vs. Being a Great Marketer | Bennie Johnson, AMA
Q: What do CMOs get wrong, and what should they be better at?
CMOs often struggle to secure their seat at the executive table and demonstrate how marketing leads growth beyond the marketing function. They need to show business leadership, understand finance, and articulate actionable next steps that tie marketing to measurable outcomes.

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The show spotlights senior marketing leaders and CMOs who share practical guidance on navigating the evolving role of marketing in organizations. Episodes frequently explore strategy, measurement, customer experience, data-driven decision making, and the tension between brand-building and performance. A distinctive angle is the emphasis on leadership, governance, and the integration of marketing with broader business goals, often with guest perspectives from large enterprises, professional services, and tech-enabled industries. Noteworthy aspects include candid conversations about stepping into the C-suite, leveraging AI in marketing, and driving enterprise value through cohesive, cross-functional marketing. This makes it a strong fit for l... more

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Recent guests on this podcast include:

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