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Building Better CMOs and Marketing Leaders

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Marketing leaders are facing constant new challenges. If you want to stay ahead of the curve, listen to Building Better CMOs, from the nonprofit thinktank MMA Global. It's a podcast about the future of marketing and how marketers can get smarter & stronger, hosted by MMA CEO Greg Stuart. Greg interviews some of the wisest and most successful CMOs in the business, who share crucial insights about w... more

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CMOs are " really good at the M part," says Bennie Johnson, the CEO of the American Marketing Association. "We're really good at the marketing part. We struggle with the 'Chief' and the 'Officer.'"

Why is that? Some possible reasons... more

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Helping families navigate senior care at A Place for Mom requires constant cross-functional alignment. For marketing veteran Chris Milone, leadership extends far beyond his own department. "You have to be a thought partner to the CEO... more

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At the heritage beauty house Estée Lauder, marketing is led by a re-inventor, who refuses to draw any line between marketing and digital: "Everything is digital," says Global Chief Digital and Marketing Officer Aude Gandon.

However, Aude argues that... more

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At the home improvement company Lowe's, the marketing team is fittingly led by someone who believes in rolling up your sleeves and getting the job done. CMO Jennifer Wilson describes her approach as "impact over optics."

"I care about the brand and ... more

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Recent Guests

Chris Milone
CMO of A Place for Mom
A Place for Mom
Episode: The CMO as a Strategic Thought Partner | Chris Milone, A Place For Mom
Aude Gandon
Global Chief Digital and Marketing Officer, Estée Lauder
Estée Lauder Companies
Episode: AI is Not Intelligent Without Human Help (Aude Gandon, Estée Lauder)
Jennifer Wilson
Chief Marketing Officer, Lowe's
Lowe's
Episode: Leveraging Data and Building Loyalty at Lowe’s with CMO Jennifer Wilson
Amy Hu
Chief Marketing Officer at New York Life Insurance
New York Life Insurance
Episode: Embracing Measurement and Building Trust with New York Life's Amy Hu
Matt Lieberman
Chief Marketing and Business Development Officer of Cooley
Cooley
Episode: Get Specific About Marketing Results with Matt Lieberman
Armin Molavi
CMO of Instructure, Canvas
Instructure
Episode: Build Something or Fix Something with Instructure CMO Armin Molavi
Noha Abdalla
CMO of Choice Hotels with extensive experience in hospitality and marketing, previously at Hilton and Animal Planet.
Choice Hotels
Episode: Agentic AI and Emotional Connection with Noha Abdalla, CMO of Choice Hotels
Stacy Hammond
Chief Marketing Officer at Charles Schwab
Charles Schwab
Episode: Stacy Hammond, CMO of Charles Schwab: Cheerleader Leadership

Host

Greg Stuart
CEO of MMA Global; leading figure behind the show's focus on marketing leadership and transformation.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 28 ratings
  • Insightful Quality Marketing and Leadership Content

    Greg is a wonderful host and extracts informative perspectives of what it takes to be a marketing leader. Not only does the content focus on the marketing skills needed, but also the character and leadership traits required to succeed. This is a great listen for all marketers, no matter the experience.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    TommyQMa
    United States3 years ago
  • Insights, informative and entertaining.

    Quality content that is not only informative but fun to listen to. Dynamic questions and Insightful answers with practical and actionable advice for marketers. The content’s reflection of humor and candor to the marketing industry is spot on!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Andrew Somer
    United States3 years ago
  • Real

    Greg gets into real discussions about substantive topics with leading chief marketing officers, and this provides valuable insights to truly understand the state of business and marketing.

    He is great at opening up CMOs to talk candidly.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    1Prof
    United States3 years ago
  • Real, Down-to-Earth Conversations with CMOs

    “Building Better CMOs” is a wonderful view into the minds of the world’s best CMOs and is just as valuable a tool on character and leadership skills as it is on marketing strategy and insights. While these top CMOs all have different backgrounds and paths that led them to where they are today, they all share a tenacity, positivity, and real understanding of connection with their teams and consumers that is inspiring to hear (and take back to your own organization). This podcast is great for anyo... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    kchunka13
    United States3 years ago
  • Great leadership content

    Greg is a great host and love the goal of this podcast to inspire marketing leaders. Lots of things to consider and explore in my own role in the marketing ecosystem, it’s not JUST for CMOs!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Kh10388
    United States3 years ago

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Guests are seen as industry leaders who share diverse, actionable perspectives on branding, growth, and innovation.
Listeners praise candid, real discussions with CMOs and practical leadership takeaways.
Many enjoy the actionable strategies and genuine conversations that blend strategy with leadership culture.
The host's interviewing style is engaging and insightful for senior marketers.

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#85
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#146
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#233
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Talking Points

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Get Specific About Marketing Results with Matt Lieberman
Q: How does Cooley approach building a unified marketing strategy in a heavily matrixed professional services firm?
Cooley focuses on creating one singular firm message by aligning marketing with the firm's strategy, coordinating across practice areas, industries, and geographies, and using data to drive decisions rather than letting individual partners push their own viewpoints.
Get Specific About Marketing Results with Matt Lieberman
Q: What is the best advice Matt has been given in his career?
The best advice was to consider whether you are running toward something you love or running away from something you dislike, then pursue the path that aligns with your passion and opportunities, which ultimately helped him decide to move into marketing and grow within it.
Embracing Measurement and Building Trust with New York Life's Amy Hu
Q: So, what would you advise a first-time CMO to do?
Build relationships with peers and align with the CFO and other sponsors early to ensure your plans are commercially effective and understood across the organization.
Build Something or Fix Something with Instructure CMO Armin Molavi
Q: If you were to give one Monday-starting piece of advice for marketers, what would it be?
Treat AI not as a tool for reducing headcount but as a way to amplify human work; focus on enabling the team to do more with the same or fewer resources by eliminating low-value tasks and expanding capacity for creative and strategic work.
Build Something or Fix Something with Instructure CMO Armin Molavi
Q: What do CMOs get wrong about the role, and what should they stop doing?
CMOs should stop using excessive marketing jargon and complex models with board members; instead, they should communicate in business terms, connect marketing outcomes to enterprise value, and build shared understanding across leadership.

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A leadership-focused show featuring top CMOs and marketing leaders who share practical strategies for advancing to the C-suite, building strong brands, and aligning marketing with broader business goals. Episodes emphasize authentic storytelling, brand integrity, and the evolving role of marketing in a tech-enabled world—from AI-assisted creativity and personalization to creator economies and customer experience. Guests come from global brands and notable agencies, offering actionable insights on leadership styles, cross-functional collaboration, and driving revenue without sacrificing brand purpose. The format tends to blend candid conversations with lessons on navigating digital transformation, data-informed decision making, and the human... more

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