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Behind the Binary by Google Cloud Security

Josh Stroschein
Reverse Engineering
Malware Analysis
Cybersecurity
Flare-On 12
Machine Learning
X64dbg
Flare-On Challenge
Web3
Lazarus Group
AI In Reverse Engineering
Challenge Development
YARA
AI In Cybersecurity
Windows
Debugging Tools
Generative AI
Math In Challenges
North Korea
Decentralized Finance
Threat Hunting

Welcome to Behind the Binary, the podcast that introduces you to the fascinating people, technology, and tools driving the world of reverse engineering. Join your host, Josh Stroschein, a reverse engineer with the FLARE team at Google, and someone passionate about sharing knowledge and shedding light on the art of reverse engineering, as he sits down with intriguing guests to explore the human sid... more

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"I thought that we would never hear about these people after they were named. But what was a surprise is that they actually hired a lawyer in New York... and they were like, 'Yeah, we're going to be taking part in this trial."

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In this episode, we are joined by Robert Wallace, Joseph Dobson, and Blas Kajusner to dissect the new "Hybrid Heist." The panel argues that the era of isolated crypto-theft is over; sophisticated actors are now targeting the Web2 layer—the frontends,... more

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In this episode, Kevin Harris defends that claim. We move past the standard "AI Safety" talking points to distinguish between the two attack vectors confu... more

In this episode, Dhillon Kannabhiran shares the gritty origin story of Hack in the Box (HITB), detailing how he dug a $20k financial hole to launch the first event in Malaysia before building it into a global brand.

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Recent Guests

Pierre-Marc Bureau
Threat Analysis Group (Google)
Google
Episode: EP24 The Glupteba Takedown: What Happens When Botnet Operators Show Up in Court with Pierre-Marc Bureau
Joe Dobson
Part of the Crypto Quartet
Episode: EP23 Immutable C2: How EtherHiding and Frontend Attacks are Weaponizing the Blockchain
Blas Kajusner
Part of the Crypto Quartet
Episode: EP23 Immutable C2: How EtherHiding and Frontend Attacks are Weaponizing the Blockchain
Kevin Harris
Mathematician and security expert
Episode: EP22 Jailbreaking, Prompt Injection, and the "Agentic" Flaw in MCP with Kevin Harris
Pavel Yosifovich
Expert on Windows Internals and author of the Windows Internals series
Microsoft
Episode: EP20 Windows Under the Hood: Kernel Design, EDRs, and the Shift to VBS with Pavel Yosifovich
Hahna Kane Latonick
Director of Research and Development at Dark Wolf Solutions
Dark Wolf Solutions
Episode: EP16 The Machine Learning Revolution in Reverse Engineering with Hahna Kane Latonick
Blas Kojousner
A vulnerability engineer on the Flare team at Google focused on malware reverse engineering and security in Web3 environments.
Google
Episode: EP14 Web3's Dark Side: Unmasking the New Age of Financial Crime
Joseph Dobson
Principal analyst at Mandiant who leads efforts to track cryptocurrency use by threat actors.
Mandiant
Episode: EP14 Web3's Dark Side: Unmasking the New Age of Financial Crime
Robert Wallace
Consulting leader and senior director at Mandiant with extensive experience in digital forensics and cybercrime.
Mandiant
Episode: EP14 Web3's Dark Side: Unmasking the New Age of Financial Crime

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Josh Stroschein
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EP24 The Glupteba Takedown: What Happens When Botnet Operators Show Up in Court with Pierre-Marc Bureau
Q: What was the pivotal moment that connected the technical analysis to the legal strategy, and how did the court case unfold?
A single, traceable string in a binary led to connections with the botnet's front companies and individuals, enabling a civil filing in the Southern District of New York. The case progressed through default entries, a lawsuit, and a dramatic courtroom sequence that culminated in dismissals and a substantial legal-fee ruling, while also publicizing decryptable wallet addresses and C2 indicators to aid enforcement and research.
EP24 The Glupteba Takedown: What Happens When Botnet Operators Show Up in Court with Pierre-Marc Bureau
Q: Can you maybe just start giving us a little bit of background on Glutiba and how it came on your radar?
Glutiba (Glukteba) is a long-running botnet with multi-tier modules for monetization, distributed since 2011, and notable for its openness in selling proxies and compromised credentials, which helped Google TAG prioritize the investigation and its eventual legal action.
EP23 Immutable C2: How EtherHiding and Frontend Attacks are Weaponizing the Blockchain
Q: Where are we standing right now in terms of novel techniques since we last talked?
The discussion highlights the shift toward blockchain-hosted payloads like Etherhiding, where dynamic, in-memory JavaScript and cross-language payloads are used to avoid disk artifacts and to update C2 addresses across chains. This represents a move from traditional PE-based backdoors to lightweight, on‑chain updates that are harder to detect.
EP19 The Art of Deconstructing Problems: Tools, Tactics, and the ScatterBrain Obfuscator with Nino Isakovic
Q: What is ScatterBrain?
It is an obfuscating compiler related to LLVM that transforms code into obfuscated binaries, complicating analysis.
EP19 The Art of Deconstructing Problems: Tools, Tactics, and the ScatterBrain Obfuscator with Nino Isakovic
Q: When did you get drawn to software that was intentionally obfuscated, malware or exploits or something that's just trying to protect its intellectual property?
It stemmed from my interest in programming and compilers, realizing that scripting languages protect intellectual property similarly, leading to my focus on obfuscation.

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Listeners can expect deep dives into reverse engineering, malware analysis, and cyber threat research, with a strong emphasis on practical techniques, tooling, and case studies from real operations and incidents. Episodes frequently explore threat actor tradecraft, security research methodologies, and emerging technologies (e.g., Web3 security, AI in security, obfuscation, and Windows internals). A standout aspect is the mix of practitioner-focused discussions, hands-on analysis, and industry storytelling, often featuring guests who are highly technical and deeply experienced in security research, incident response, and defensive engineering. The show likely attracts engineers, researchers, and security professionals seeking actionable insi... more

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