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Becoming the GC

Joe Schohl
General Counsel
Artificial Intelligence
Bradnet
Unio Health Partners
Davita
AI In Law
Ad Knowledge
In-House Counsel
Radiology
Murray State University
Innovative Renal Care
Frost Bank
Florida, United States
Kansas City, United States
IVF
Antitrust
Water Quality Association
Virta Health
In-House Legal Team
Ritesh Patel

General Counsel and Chief Legal Officers hold some of the highest-ranking and most vital executive roles within any company or organization. These positions are both prestigious and deeply impactful, making them a pinnacle aspiration for many corporate lawyers. However, the journey to earning these titles is complex, demanding not only technical legal expertise but also exceptional leadership and ... more

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Meet Lisa Harrington, the ultimate portfolio career architect in the legal world. From top litigator to multiple General Counsel (GC) roles, a public company board member, and now the CEO seat, Lisa has mastered the art of continuous professional evo... more

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The role of the modern GC has evolved from being a technical gatekeeper to a strategic business partner who must balance the "speed of light" provided by technology with the "speed of right" required for sound judgment. Noah Popp, Executive Vice Pres... more

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Technology will only evolve as time passes by, and you cannot afford to be left behind. You have to grow alongside it and use it wisely to your career advantage. Joseph Schohl sits down with Ritesh Patel, Chief Legal Officer and Corporate Secretary a... more

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Jamie Anderson, CLO of Virta Health, is not your typical General Counsel. She's a high-impact leader who has navigated a non-linear career path—from politics-obsessed DC student to Big Law at Aiken Gump, scaling teams at the healthcare giant DaVita, ... more

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Lisa Harrington
General Counsel, CEO, board member, and educator
Various including Fandango, ASICS/ASICs, Wharton, UC Irvine Law School
Episode: Networking As A Superpower: Building A Portfolio Career In Law With Lisa Harrington
Noah Popp
Executive Vice President, General Counsel, and Secretary at Enerpac Tool Group Corp.
Enerpac Tool Group Corp.
Episode: The Evolution Of Corporate Law Practice And The Modern GC With Noah Popp
Ritesh Patel
Chief Legal Officer and Corporate Secretary at Viant Technology
Viant Technology
Episode: The Tech-Forward GC: How Ritesh Patel Turns Technology Into Strategic Advantage
Jamie Anderson
Chief Legal Officer at Virta Health
Virta Health
Episode: Beyond Compliance: Jamie Anderson On Building Modern In House Teams In A Changing Healthcare World
Mike Sennett
Chief Legal Officer and General Counsel of the Water Quality Association
Water Quality Association
Episode: From Big Law To ‘Retirement’ And Beyond: Mike Sennett’s Second Act As General Counsel
Ben Huddleston
Seasoned general counsel who led legal operations for a diversified group of 28 international businesses
Former General Counsel at DaVita group and later roles at Quorum Health and related enterprises
Episode: Hands-On Leadership: How Ben Huddleston Rolls Up His Sleeves For 28 Companies
David Shapiro
General Counsel with experience at DaVita, Vail Resorts, Ibotta
Ibotta (Current GC); former GC at DaVita and Vail Resorts
Episode: From Litigator To Leader: David Shapiro On Seizing Opportunity And Building Teams
Margaret Howell
General Counsel in IVF and women's health care
Generate Life Sciences (former GC at Davida); advisor in IVF/women's health
Episode: From IVF Law To Ultra-Distance Rides: Lessons In Leadership And Being Yourself From Margaret Howell
Mike Geroe
Former general counsel of Ad Knowledge; technology executive
Ad Knowledge
Episode: Kansas City Here I Come: Mike Geroe’s Coast-To-Coast (And In Between) Legal Journey

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4.9 out of 5 stars from 8 ratings
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    Really enjoyed the first episode I listened to, really an inside look into excelling in a GC role

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    Jpolzer
    United Statesa year ago

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Great balance of leadership and legal strategy.
Insightful, practical career guidance for aspiring GCs.
Authentic storytelling and actionable playbooks.

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#108
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#51
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Beyond the Law: Chuck Kable on Bold Moves, Legal Innovation, and Leading with Heart
Q: When did you first think you wanted to be a general counsel?
Chuck describes a transition from litigation into in-house roles, recognizing that the GC path opened up when he moved from courtroom work to managing teams and handling end-to-end legal operations in a corporate setting.
The Evolving Lawyer: Sterling Miller On Lessons From The Game Of Life
Q: What role do you see AI playing for in-house lawyers in the next decade?
AI will act as a powerful assistant and eventually an agent that can complete tasks, draft outputs, and surface insights, but the human responsibility to guide, validate, and understand legal implications will remain essential.
The Evolving Lawyer: Sterling Miller On Lessons From The Game Of Life
Q: What was the biggest hurdle when you moved into a GC position for Travelocity?
Learning to speak the business language—understanding financial statements, KPIs, and the P&L—so I could participate meaningfully in executive discussions and frame legal advice in terms of risk, cost, and strategic impact.
The Evolving Lawyer: Sterling Miller On Lessons From The Game Of Life
Q: How did you first navigate the transition from corporate interests to an in-house GC role?
By volunteering for diverse assignments, proving adaptability, and ensuring I could demonstrate how legal work translates into business value; eventually, being seen as a strategic partner enabled the internal promotion to GC.
From Litigator To Leader: David Shapiro On Seizing Opportunity And Building Teams
Q: How did the transition to in-house leadership come about at DaVita and later roles?
He sought broader responsibility and a full ownership role, moving from Chief Compliance Officer to broader leadership that enabled him to influence across functions.

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This series explores the journeys, mindsets, and strategies of General Counsels and Chief Legal Officers who have reached the top of corporate legal leadership. Across episodes, listeners hear how guests blended legal acumen with business savvy, leadership, and strategic thinking to build in-house teams, lead complex transformations, and navigate regulatory and cross-border challenges. Practical roadmaps, personal stories, and lessons on networking, stakeholder management, and adapting to rapid tech-enabled change are common threads, making it valuable for aspiring GCs looking to transition from external counsel or traditional roles into C-suite leadership. Notable throughlines include the emphasis on authentic relationship-building, the sh... more

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