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Drones and robotics are moving from niche capability to mainstream security tools—and at the same time, they’re creating entirely new attack paths for adversaries. In this episode of the ASIAL Security Insider Podcast, we speak with Deborah Evans (Edith Cowan University) about where unmanned systems and robotics are heading, what’s already in use across security and law enforcement, and what the i... more

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Australia’s critical infrastructure operators are entering a new phase of security and risk management. With enhanced obligations under the Security of Critical Infrastructure (SOCI) Act, rapidly advancing artificial intelligence, and growing supply ... more

Crowded public spaces present a unique security challenge. They must remain safe and resilient while also feeling open, welcoming and accessible.

In this episode, we speak with Lauren Campbell, Security Manager at South Bank Corporation, ahead of he... more

Facial recognition remains one of the most controversial technologies in Australian security, sitting at the intersection of public safety, privacy, surveillance and corporate responsibility.

In this episode, we speak with Alex MacDonald, Director a... more

In this episode of the Security Insider Podcast, we speak with Alastair MacGibbon, one of Australia’s most experienced cyber security and technology resilience leaders.

Alastair has shaped Australian cyber security from almost every angle: as a Fede... more

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Recent Guests

Lauren Campbell
Security Manager at South Bank Corporation
South Bank Corporation
Episode: Ep 160 - Changing the Guard: The Future of Security in Crowded Places
Alex MacDonald
Director at Vixels; former National Investigations and Security Manager at Bunnings
Vixels
Episode: Ep 159 - Bunnings, Facial Recognition and the Privacy Line- Has the Tribunal Opened the Door?
Alastair MacGibbon
Cyber security and technology resilience leader
Former AFP official, roles across Australian government and private sector
Episode: Ep 158 - When Cyber Risk Becomes Physical
Andrew Harris
Executive from Ironbark Strategic
Ironbark Strategic
Episode: Ep 157 - Supply Chain Under Siege: What Australian Security Leaders Must Do Now
Bilal Ali Khan
Expert at intersection of infrastructure risk, resilience and strategic advisory
Spinnaker Infra
Episode: Ep 157 - Supply Chain Under Siege: What Australian Security Leaders Must Do Now
Tony Jaques
Director of Issues Outcomes, Issue and Crisis Management Specialist
Issue Outcomes / Tony Jaques
Episode: Ep 156 - Crisis Communications for Security Leaders: What to Say When the Pressure Is On.
Major General Mick Ryan
Senior Fellow for Military Studies, Lowy Institute (International Security Programme)
Lowy Institute
Episode: Ep 155 - US-Iran Escalation: What Australian Security Leaders Need to Know
Lou Bladel
Uber's Director of Insider Threat Global Security and Investigations
Uber
Episode: Ep 154 - Managing Insider Threats
Julian Claxton
Founder of Jayde Consulting, behavioral scientist and counter espionage advisor
Jayde Consulting
Episode: Ep 154 - Managing Insider Threats

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John Bigelow
Host of the Security Insider Podcast with a focus on security leadership, governance, and technology strategy.

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Ep 159 - Bunnings, Facial Recognition and the Privacy Line- Has the Tribunal Opened the Door?
Q: What would you do differently if you were to implement facial recognition again, given what happened with Bunnings?
Ensure governance and privacy policies are fully in place before activation, implement robust human-in-the-loop processes, document privacy impact assessments, and maintain ongoing auditing to prevent feature creep and ensure proportionality.
Ep 159 - Bunnings, Facial Recognition and the Privacy Line- Has the Tribunal Opened the Door?
Q: What was the core reason the original privacy breach finding was upheld, and what did the tribunal say about consent in this context?
The breach findings centered on governance, notification, and privacy notices, with the tribunal upholding that consent exceptions could apply in certain circumstances related to threats or unlawful activity, but emphasized governance and notification shortcomings as the key issues.
Ep 158 - When Cyber Risk Becomes Physical
Q: What are three practical actions security teams can take to start closing the gap between physical and cyber right now?
First, establish direct communication and collaboration between physical security and IT/Cyber, second, learn and use each other's language and metrics (e.g., SOC terms, threat models), and third, implement stronger device hardening and update governance around IoT/cameras to reduce electronic attack vectors.
Ep 158 - When Cyber Risk Becomes Physical
Q: How should they frame this issue to senior leadership, to get them to understand and take the cyber side of things more seriously if they're just used to dealing with the physical aspects?
Frame security as a three-legged issue (physical, cyber, and personnel) with clear business consequences, translate technical risk into financial, regulatory, and operational impacts, and use concrete, outcome-focused language to show what could happen and how to prevent it.
Ep 156 - Crisis Communications for Security Leaders: What to Say When the Pressure Is On.
Q: What should a crisis response SOP look like for small and large operators?
Move away from bulky manuals toward a simple, electronic ESOP (one or two pages) that guides what to say and do, with clear roles and the ability to adapt as the situation evolves.

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Across recent episodes, the show centers on security leadership, strategic risk management, and the evolving role of technology in safeguarding organizations. Key topics include insider risk, crisis communications, and the human factors shaping security cultures; the future of AI in video surveillance, drones and counter-UAS, smart city tech, and robotics; and the geopolitical and economic dynamics that affect resilience in supply chains and critical infrastructure. Guests range from crisis communications experts and military strategists to researchers in academia and practitioners implementing governance, risk, and technology-enabled security programs. A standout throughline is translating complex security challenges into practical, cross-... more

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