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Around The Way Curls

Antoinette Lee & Shanti Mayers
Mental Health
Relationships
Self-Care
Parenting
Diddy
Friendship
Motherhood
Therapy
Bad Bunny
Politics
Israel
Donald Trump
Black Women
Around the Way Curls
Climate Change
Personal Growth
Community Support
Philadelphia
Kamala Harris
Palestine

Rooted in friendship, humor, and self-actualization, Shanti and Antoinette are a differing, but dynamic duo who explore both the profound and the profane because #DualityIsAThing.

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In this week's episode, Shanti recognizes her business's growth while Antoinette sees her breasts with new eyes. Together, we discuss Trump cussing out Netanyahu, and the recent verdict of the Rick Chow case that left a 14-year-old boy murdered. For ... more

What happens when the people who are supposed to show up for you only do the bare minimum? In this episode, we explore the lasting impact of growing up in a low-effort family, where emotional support is scarce, communication is inconsistent, and rela... more

In this week's episode, Antoinette returns to the pod. She shares her recent surgery experience while Shanti prepares for festival season. Together, we discuss Trump's version of reparations as well as the recent blow to America's Voting RIght's Act ... more

This week, the Workbae Pod crew joins Shanti as guest hosts. Together, we get into dating, intimacy, guilt, and what it means to feel “content” in a relationship. Then we spiral into global politics, and the rise of public “experts” like Cheyenne Bry... more

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Recent Guests

Kimberly McGlonn
Award-winning social entrepreneur, author, educator, and cultural thought leader
Grant Blvd, Blk Ivy; Drexel University
Episode: Ep 494. How to Build It Boldly with Dr. Kimberly McGlonn
Nicole Byer
Host of Best Friends Podcast
Bravo/Netflix content hosts
Episode: Ep 489. The Tension Between What Is and What Could Have Been
Sasheer Zameda
Host of Best Friends Podcast
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Episode: Ep 489. The Tension Between What Is and What Could Have Been
Clint Coley
Comedian extraordinaire, producer, and host known for his engaging discussions about relationships and culture.
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Episode: Reprise: Episode 101 What Happened to Men Begging? ft. Clint Coley
Alexis McGill Johnson
President and CEO of Planned Parenthood, notable for her activism and leadership role.
Planned Parenthood Federation of America
Episode: Ep 480. The Future of Planned Parenthood ft. CEO and President Alexis McGill Johnson
Olivia Gillison
Former Community Preparedness and Engagement Director for the Office of Emergency Management of Philadelphia
City of Philadelphia
Episode: Ep 473. Are You Ready for An Emergency?
Mandi Woodruff-Santos
Award-winning career coach, personal finance expert, speaker, writer, and host of the Brown Ambition Podcast
Brown Ambition Podcast
Episode: Ep 451. Navigating Career Pivots & Salary Negotiations ft. Mandi Money
Dr. Anna Malaika Tubbs
Author, Advocates for understanding the impacts of American patriarchy
Episode: Ep 449. Erased: What American Patriarchy Has Hidden from Us ft Dr. Anna Malaika Tubbs
Jay Henry
Father of Antoinette and a recovery advocate
Episode: Ep 445. My Dad’s My Hero. He’s Also an Alcoholic ft. Jay Henry

Hosts

Shanti
Host of Around The Way Curls
Antoinette
Co-host of Around The Way Curls

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 2.2k ratings
  • Ep 496

    Ant, I’m so glad you’re back!! I missed the breakdown of politics!

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    Maddie.T2
    United States18 days ago
  • How Antionette speaks to Shanti

    She would not dare speak to Olay or Mandi B the way she speaks to Shanti. I’ve listened for a while but after this last episode idk if I can continue to support because it makes me cringe SO much the way she cuts her off and is beyond condescending to her. Praying Shanti continues to pod with someone that values her and doesn’t think she’s unintelligent.

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    Just a Yogi
    United States2 months ago
  • Antoinette’s Growth!!!

    After listening to episode 492, I have to shout out Antoinette’s growth over the years from a socio-political standpoint. She’s really been holding her own in that department which I appreciate a lot. I also think she’s one of the few holding the defectors of MAGA accountable. The clip airing Tucker out was needed against Liberals and Leftists glorifying his foreign policy stance. Also, the more growth I witness from Antoinette, the more I’m starting to notice how Libertarian coded Shanti is whi... more

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    4
    utica_ave123
    United States2 months ago
  • Crash Out

    The Epi 491 Crash Out was wild! Y’all had me crying, literally LOL! 🩷

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    AplusB
    United States2 months ago
  • I love y’all

    I’m over here rollin lol. Y’all, you get a lil bit of everything in this podcast. Please listen! When I carry the 1 and rearrange my bank account I’m gonna subscribe to patron. Lol love ya

    Apple Podcasts
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    nezzy babii
    United States2 months ago

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Listeners praise the duo's intellectual chemistry and practical insights, noting the balance of humor with serious discourse.
Critiques often target interruptions or perceived bias, especially during heavy political debates.
Fans appreciate guests and cross-podcast collaborations that widen the discussion without diluting the core values.

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Ep 494. How to Build It Boldly with Dr. Kimberly McGlonn
Q: Why did you feel these books were needed in the business literature?
Because there was a lack of Black women authors writing about business from a humane, human-centered perspective, and a need for truthful, vulnerable storytelling that centers social impact and care in leadership.
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Q: What do you suggest for dealing with complicated family dynamics?
Focus on how you can communicate your feelings without expecting the other person to change.
Reprise: God is Tricky ft. Jade & Keia of Gettin Grown
Q: What are your thoughts on Monique's comments about bonnets?
Monique should not police how other people show up in public, especially those who may not have the same financial means; it's more about personal comfort.
Reprise Ep 413. Womanhood With A White Mother
Q: Do you think your mother prepared you for how the world would see you as a biracial black woman?
No, my mom is just grappling with the fact that I'm biracial and black.
Ep 473. Are You Ready for An Emergency?
Q: Can you talk about the disparity or some of the reasons behind that?
The systemic issues around housing, particularly how communities of color often end up in neighborhoods with higher risks related to climate disasters, are critical to address in preparation.

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What is Around The Way Curls about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Two close friends—Shanti and Antoinette—host a candid, humor-filled conversation that spans politics, culture, relationships, and current events through a lens of duality. Episodes mix sharp takes on public figures, media narratives, and social issues with personal anecdotes and humor, often featuring guests or crossovers from related communities. The show stands out for its fearless deconstruction of power, fame, and ideology, paired with warmth, humor, and a strong sense of community. Listeners are drawn to the duo's honesty, the balance of hard-hitting topics with relatable banter, and episodes that weave culture, politics, and everyday life into one conversation. This format likely appeals to engaged adults who want thoughtful critique ... more

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3. Sasheer Zameda
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6. Olivia Gillison
7. Mandi Woodruff-Santos
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