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Around the Circle | An Enneagram Channel

Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
Enneagram
Instincts
Inside Out
Subtypes
Personal Growth
Bible
Communication
John
Emotions
Personality Types
Podcasting
Research
Coaching
Self-Preservation Instincts
Parenting
Self-Preservation Instinct
Relationships
Sexual Instinct
David
Star Wars

The Enneagram is a map of the human personality. It’s a tool for navigating relationships. It creates language for what motivates us and helps us look at the way we look at everything else. Most importantly the enneagram is a mirror; because sometimes you need help seeing yourself.

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What does it really mean for a Six to seek security?

In this episode, Jeff and Katie explore the inner world of Enneagram Sixes—how they navigate uncertainty, why they turn to ... more

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Jeff and Dr. Sam E. Greenberg take a thoughtful look at the Enneagram’s place between philosophy and psychology, exploring skepticism, meaning, and what it really means for something to be “true.”

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This episode of Early Access: Roots explores the evolving relationship between a mother and daughter through the lens of the Enneagram. Katie Whitlock sits down with Jennifer (Type Tw... more

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This episode of The Morning Show explores "the fixation"—those oft repeated mental patterns that feel like solutions but quietly limit our freedom.

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Recent Guests

Jen Jacobson
Mother and Enneagram three (social three), former youth/ministry leader, Enneagram coach
Self-employed (Enneagram coach), Colorado Springs, Colorado
Episode: Roots | Enneagram 3 & 1 : Jen & Olivia
KJ Ramsey
Licensed counselor specializing in trauma recovery, author of The Place Between Our Pain
Author, Therapist
Episode: KJ Ramsey | Joy and Pain
Blake Walker
Enneagram 9, lives in Utah, focused on personal development and Enneagram work
Independent practitioner / Enneagram enthusiast
Episode: "Early Access" | Enneagram 9 | Blake in Utah
Jeff Cook
Guest on the wrap-up episode discussing season one insights and season two direction
Around the Circle | An Enneagram Channel
Episode: "Inside Story" | Season One Wrap w. Jeff Cook
Lindsay Taylor
Therapist at Hope Springs Counseling
Hope Springs Counseling
Episode: Talking Ones | Lindsay Taylor
Milton Stewart
President of the International Enneagram Association, host of the podcast Do It For The Gram, and expert in Enneagram application across cultures.
International Enneagram Association
Episode: Milton Stewart | President of the International Enneagram Association
Lindsey Davis
Part of the Fathoms crew and involved in Enneagram coaching.
Fathoms
Episode: "Inside Story" | Enneagram 7 | Lindsey Davis
Abby Howe
Enneagram coach and YouTube creator
Episode: Abbey Howe | Enneagram 3 | From Creator to New Parent
Saleh Vallander
Doctor, Enneagram author, and meditation teacher
Self-published author.
Episode: "Inside Story" | Enneagram 5 | Saleh Vallander

Hosts

Jeff Cook
Host known for leading discussions on Enneagram concepts, workplace dynamics, and deep-dives with guests.
Katie Whitlock
Co-host and Enneagram educator, frequently guiding conversations with students and guest experts.
Kristin Messegee
Host focusing on Enneagram topics and integrative discussions with guests.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 563 ratings
  • Enjoyed

    I searched on a long shot when husband exclaimed he wanted to hear more ‘1s’, but it was easier listening to a man’s voice. As the one, I feel like Jeff did a great job “laying us out”. I look forward to checking out his number shows, 5. Thank you!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Afstrick2013
    United States5 months ago
  • Enneagram as it’s meant to be!

    Jeff and TJ take enneagram to the depths it was intended to go! They also provide a platform for so many enneagram voices and facilitate such rich conversations!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    LGT33
    United States9 months ago
  • Thank you!

    Real insight and wisdom. So helpful . Thank you!!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    shortylass
    United Kingdoma year ago
  • Best enneagram podcast available.

    Thanks guys for all the hard work. I do love this podcast.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    sueub
    United Statesa year ago
  • 5 stars!

    I love this podcast. It’s easy to listen to and extremely interesting. I love getting different perspectives and relatable references. The guests are also people I familiar with so that makes sense even more tantalizing.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    AllyNoel
    United Statesa year ago

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Listeners praise deep, nuanced discussions that go beyond basics and explore multiple perspectives with warmth and humor.
The show is often described as insightful, practical, and accessible, helping listeners apply Enneagram concepts to real-life situations.
Reviews frequently mention the hosts' ability to balance theory with relatable storytelling and maintain a respectful, curious tone.
Guest diversity and expert insights are highlighted as a strength, with many comments noting tangible takeaways for personal and relational growth.

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Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

"Early Access" | Enneagram 9 | Luke in North Carolina
Q: how has changing careers served your growth as a Nine?
Luke explains a concrete shift from pastry chef to counseling, driven by discovering gifts in listening and calming presence, aided by therapy and inner work.
"Early Access" | Enneagram 9 | Luke in North Carolina
Q: what would it take for you to show up fully and be known by others?
Luke describes the fear and practicality of vulnerability, the effort to disclose, and the importance of safe relationships to be known.
"Early Access" | Enneagram 9 | Luke in North Carolina
Q: do you have thoughts about that first of all?
Luke discusses purpose and belonging as core needs, noting that Nine's drive for purpose often comes from a search for belonging and self-knowledge rather than external validation.
Roots | Enneagram 3 & 1 : Jen & Olivia
Q: Jen, what is the most important lesson you've learned about parenting a child with a strong one or three tendencies, and how has that shaped your approach with Olivia?
Jen highlights the need to celebrate individual strengths, avoid forcing a single path, and practice humility—recognizing that her kids can teach her as much as she teaches them, and that flexibility and openness are essential to allow her daughter to thrive.
Enneagram 8 | Grace in Dallas
Q: What makes Grace qualified to give those people help?
Grace explains that her qualification comes from lived experience, a broad range of roles, and a commitment to applying what she's learned to coaching and development. She emphasizes practical, experience-based guidance rather than theoretical expertise alone.

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A map of human personality and motivation, the show frequently features conversations with Enneagram experts, therapists, coaches, and authors who explore how the Enneagram operates in work, relationships, and personal growth. Episodes often center on type-specific nuances, practical applications of the framework, and ethical or cultural considerations in applying Enneagram insights. A standout aspect is the mix of deep theory with relatable storytelling, guest perspectives from diverse backgrounds, and a candid, humor-infused delivery that keeps complex topics accessible for listeners seeking self-understanding and interpersonal clarity.

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2. Enneagram 2.0 with Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes
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2. KJ Ramsey
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4. Jeff Cook
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7. Lindsey Davis
8. Abby Howe

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