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Around the Circle | An Enneagram Channel

Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
Enneagram
Relationships
Personal Growth
Emotional Intelligence
Mental Health
Identity
Self-Discovery
Self-Awareness
Instincts
Therapy
Personal Development
Psychology
Personality Types
Parenting
Self-Improvement
Coaching
Processing Center
Motherhood
Family Dynamics
Conflict Resolution

The Enneagram is a map of the human personality. It’s a tool for navigating relationships. It creates language for what motivates us and helps us look at the way we look at everything else. Most importantly the enneagram is a mirror; because sometimes you need help seeing yourself.

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Billy Schewee
Program director at the University of Texas at Dallas; Enneagram educator
University of Texas at Dallas
Episode: The Schewee Family | Enneagram 9, 4 & 7 * Billy, Will, and Sam (plus a big announcement!)
Will Schewee
Son, Enneagram Four
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Episode: The Schewee Family | Enneagram 9, 4 & 7 * Billy, Will, and Sam (plus a big announcement!)
Sam Schewee
Son, Enneagram Seven
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Episode: The Schewee Family | Enneagram 9, 4 & 7 * Billy, Will, and Sam (plus a big announcement!)
Christina Young
Mother of three autistic children, creator of the Autistic Enneagram
Autistic Enneagram
Episode: Enneagram and Autism | An Interview with Christina Young
Braden Swanson
Partner, Enneagram enthusiast, and educator in the discussion
Episode: Partners | Enneagram 3 & 9 * Braden & Lydia
Lydia Swanson
Partner, Enneagram enthusiast, library project advocate
Episode: Partners | Enneagram 3 & 9 * Braden & Lydia
Augie Cook
Autistic individual, Enneagram Eight, exploring autism, gender, and identity
Episode: The Augie Cook Interview | Autism, Gender and Enneagram 8s
Dani Cooper
Enneagram teacher and coach, author
Episode: "Inside Story" | The Work for Ones | Dani Cooper Enneagram Coach
Penny Love
Mother, Seven
Episode: Roots | Enneagram 7 & 4 * Penny and Tori

Hosts

Katie Whitlock
Host with a focus on guiding conversations and opening dialogue, frequently moderating discussions on Enneagram topics and family dynamics.
Jeff Cook
Co-host; provides Enneagram and neuroscience framing, often leading deep-dive explanations and hosting with TJ.
TJ Wilson
Enneagram facilitator and co-host; brings practical, experiential perspectives and helps run panel discussions.
Kristin Messegee
Enneagram expert and co-host; contributes specialist knowledge on center dynamics and processing.
Jackie Contessa
Co-host; participates in family-focused and collaborative discussions around Enneagram dynamics.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 569 ratings
  • Enjoyed

    I searched on a long shot when husband exclaimed he wanted to hear more ‘1s’, but it was easier listening to a man’s voice. As the one, I feel like Jeff did a great job “laying us out”. I look forward to checking out his number shows, 5. Thank you!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Afstrick2013
    United States8 months ago
  • Enneagram as it’s meant to be!

    Jeff and TJ take enneagram to the depths it was intended to go! They also provide a platform for so many enneagram voices and facilitate such rich conversations!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    LGT33
    United Statesa year ago
  • Thank you!

    Real insight and wisdom. So helpful . Thank you!!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    shortylass
    United Kingdoma year ago
  • Best enneagram podcast available.

    Thanks guys for all the hard work. I do love this podcast.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    sueub
    United Statesa year ago
  • 5 stars!

    I love this podcast. It’s easy to listen to and extremely interesting. I love getting different perspectives and relatable references. The guests are also people I familiar with so that makes sense even more tantalizing.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    AllyNoel
    United Statesa year ago

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Strong appreciation for practical applications in relationships and parenting, with some desire for lighter mentions of spirituality.
Guests and hosts create a warm, collaborative atmosphere that makes dense material feel accessible.
Listeners praise depth of Enneagram insight paired with approachable language.

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Enneagram and Autism | An Interview with Christina Young
Q: Could you share your experience about moving from diagnosis to understanding and how Enneagram informs your parenting approach?
Christina explains discovering Enneagram as a map that helps explain why each child behaves the way they do, especially given their neurodivergent wiring, and how this understanding guides responsive, child-led strategies.
Enneagram and Autism | An Interview with Christina Young
Q: Christina, Auggie has never walked into one of my interviews, not once. Hey!
The host is acknowledging Auggie's presence; Christina responds warmly and expresses appreciation for the opportunity to talk about her work and family.
Partners | Enneagram 3 & 9 * Braden & Lydia
Q: To get into the three-nine dynamic, how do you think that shows up in your relationship?
They explain how Braden's extroversion and Lydia's introversion balance each other, with Braden providing encouragement and momentum while Lydia offers reflection and caution, leading to a supportive but nuanced dynamic in decision-making.
Partners | Enneagram 3 & 9 * Braden & Lydia
Q: Lydia, what about you? How'd you get into it?
She describes her college introduction to the Enneagram, initially thinking she might be a five, then recognizing nine as the true type after taking a test and later aligning with Braden as their exploration deepened.
Roots | Enneagram 7 & 4 * Penny and Tori
Q: How did Enneagram shape your relationship with your daughter and your family as a whole?
Penny explains that the Enneagram gave the family words to describe their differences, improved empathy, and reduced personal blame, helping them communicate and understand each other better.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Around the Circle

What is Around the Circle about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A conversations-driven show centered on the Enneagram as a tool for understanding relationships, personal growth, and daily life. Across episodes the hosts and guests unpack how different Enneagram types drive behavior in family dynamics, workplaces, and friendships, often weaving in psychology, neuroscience, and practical coaching tips. Notable strengths include intimate family panel discussions, mistyping coaching sessions, and multi-host roundtables that illuminate center and wing dynamics with accessible language and real-life examples. The format frequently blends theory with personal stories, film and pop-culture analogies, and actionable guidance for listeners looking to apply Enneagram concepts to relationships, parenting, and self-... more

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1. Billy Schewee
2. Will Schewee
3. Sam Schewee
4. Christina Young
5. Braden Swanson
6. Lydia Swanson
7. Augie Cook
8. Dani Cooper

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