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Whatever Comes Next with Tom Osman

Getting to know the music makers out on the fringes
Berlin
Skin GRAFT Records
Ween
Stress Spells
AIDS Wolf
Breaths
Caterwaul
Requiem In White
Milwaukee
Chicago
Glasgow
Goth
Point Line Plane
Veilburner
Hypnolovewheel
Tooms
Blunt Knife Castration
Napalm Death
DIY Music Scene
Killing Joke

On Whatever Comes Next I explore the world of independent and underground music making. I talk with music makers, producers and label owners to hear their stories. I like music with a sense of mystery. I like surprises and unique stories... and noise... and weirdness... and darkness... and I want to learn more. tomosman.substack.com

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It would be hard to think of a more suitable name for the latest record by Richmond, Virginian four-piece Dumb Waiter. Having formed back in 2012, Change (out this Friday) sees the band not only introduce vocals for the first time, but completely re-... more

Although Glenn Morrow recently retired from running Bar/Non Records (the record label he founded 40 years ago), he’s still closely connected to the label.

In fact Bar/Non Records, as well as celebrating its 40th anniversary, is about to release Mor... more

American recording engineer Martin Bisi started BC Studio in Gowanus, Brooklyn, New York City (originally as OAO Studio) with Bill Laswell and Brian Eno 45 years ago.

Having worked with names like Afrika Bambaataa and Lydia Lunch, he was involved i... more

The first time Tim Gotch joined me (alongside bandmate Charlie Hernandez on episode 51 of Whatever Comes Next) Sleepbomb were poised to release The Sleeping Dead—a musical companion to George Romero’s Night of the Living Dead.

Eighteen months later,... more

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Martin Bisi
Recording engineer, producer, and musician
BC Studio / Brooklyn Recording Studio
Episode: Episode 149: Martin Bisi
Dave Ramirez
Guitarist and vocalist for Hypnolovewheel
Hypnolovewheel
Episode: Episode 147: Dave Ramirez (Hypnolovewheel)
Danielle de Picciotto
Experimental musician, half of Hacke de Picciotto
Hacke de Picciotto
Episode: Episode 146 hackedepicciotto
Alexander Hacke
Musician, half of Hacke de Picciotto
Hacke de Picciotto
Episode: Episode 146 hackedepicciotto
Joe Cannon
Singer, guitarist and banjo player, Resurrectionists
Resurrectionists
Episode: Episode 145: Joe Cannon (Resurrectionists)
Bob Bert
Lydia Lunch Retro Virus, Sonic Youth, Pussy Galore, Bewitched; underground musician and interviewer
Lydia Lunch Retro Virus; Sonic Youth; Pussy Galore
Episode: Episode 143: Bob Bert (Lydia Lunch, Sonic Youth, Pussy Galore)
Johnny Iguana
Songwriter, pianist, Claudettes member
The Claudettes
Episode: Episode 142: Johnny Iguana (The Claudettes)
Conan Neutron
Musician, host of Protonic Reversal
Conan Neutron's Protonic Reversal / Way Of The Neutron
Episode: Episode 141: Caterwaul 2026
Ralph Cuseglio
Member of Rye Coalition
Rye Coalition
Episode: Episode 141: Caterwaul 2026

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Tom Osman
Host of Whatever Comes Next, guiding conversations with interviewees across independent and underground music

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#81
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Apple Podcasts
#32
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Apple Podcasts
#109
Sweden/Music

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Episode 109: Martin Atkins (PiL, Killing Joke, Pigface)
Q: At just over a month before Extremities Presents, how is the preparation going, and how does this differ from previous projects?
Martin explains that the process is as expected—balanced between excitement and logistical pressure, involving heavy coordination with guest musicians, equipment needs, and live-stream considerations, while acknowledging the emotional complexity of mounting a large-scale, high-profile creative event.
Episode 146 hackedepicciotto
Q: How do they balance lyrics and melodies in their writing process?
Lyrics are written both on the go and after melodies are established; they often start from notes or travel inspiration, then the music is composed, with lyrics added later as part of an evolving process.
Episode 146 hackedepicciotto
Q: What is their approach to performing live with two people and many instruments?
They focus on a two-person, portable setup, using backings and a mix of traditional and electronic instruments, and they consider a potential orchestra collaboration but primarily rely on their live dynamics and improvisation to shape each show.
Episode 146 hackedepicciotto
Q: How did Lichtung come together conceptually and what was the genesis of its structure?
They aimed to expand beyond their drone-heavy past, incorporating more piano and electronics, and chose to break the record into varied sections to create a changing sonic landscape rather than a single long continuous piece.
Episode 117: Non Serviam
Q: What are your thoughts on promotion and the role of platforms like Bandcamp and YouTube?
Promotion is a necessary evil when starting from scratch, but they favor direct channels like Bandcamp and video content for discovery and to reward dedicated listeners.

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This show centers on independent and underground music, featuring conversations with makers, producers, and label owners who share insider stories from the DIY and underground scenes. Episodes highlight a wide range of genres — from no‑wave and experimental to metal and noise — with a strong emphasis on creative processes, touring realities, release strategies, and the evolving economics of independent music. Notable strengths include long-form, candid interviews that pull back the curtain on artistic workflows, collaboration dynamics, and the challenges of staying true to an artful vision in a changing industry. The guest roster skews toward musicians, scene organizers, publicists, and collaborators who illuminate both historical contexts ... more

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3. Danielle de Picciotto
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