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Vertigals
Vertical Micro Dramas
Verticals
Isabel Dréan
Vertical Narrative
Vertical Micro Drama
Snow Story Productions
Localization
Eli Shell

VertiGals is a podcast about the titillating craft of writing Vertical Micro Dramas, hosted by two hilarious pros who are eager to bring some comic relief to the wild world of smacks, whacks, and malicious mother-in-law attacks. Each episode offers candid conversations with industry voices, explores the creative process and tackles tough questions like how to keep the viewers attention over 50+ ep... more

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The VertiGals chat with the delightful Jessica Burkhart about transitioning from writing books to mobile games to verticals. Jessica Burkhart is a vertical drama screenwriter, author of over 30 books, and mobile game writer. She has written ten produ... more

The VertiGals met up with writers, actresses, and producers Carin Smolinski & Julie Bruns at the May 2026 Vertical Drama Market. Carin Smolinski indpendently produced "Tides of Desire" now streaming on MuVpix and Inverted. Julie Bruns starred in (alo... more

The VertiGals meet up with Scott Brown and Stacy Howard at the May 2026 LA Vertical Drama Market to discuss the current state of vertical story telling, the data, and pushing the medium forward. Founder of Second Rodeo Productions, Scott Brown is an ... more

The VertiGals sit down with Eli Shell - a Los Angeles-based writer, director, and producer and founder of Sidewise Studios, an independent micro-studio creating original series for vertical platforms. With a background in tech communications, messagi... more

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Scott Brown
Co-founder, Second Rodeo Productions
Second Rodeo Productions
Episode: Elevating Vertical Series with Scott Brown & Stacy Howard of Second Rodeo Productions
Stacy Howard
Co-founder, Second Rodeo Productions
Second Rodeo Productions
Episode: Elevating Vertical Series with Scott Brown & Stacy Howard of Second Rodeo Productions
Eli Shell
Los Angeles-based writer, director, and producer; founder of Sidewise Studios; creator of In-House
Sidewise Studios
Episode: Can Comedy Work in Verticals? with Eli Shell
Jason Mayfield
Producer and Head of Casting & Development at Snow Story Productions
Snow Story Productions
Episode: Producing Verticals with Jason Mayfield: Producer and Head of Casting & Development at Snow Story Productions
Astrid Carlen-Helmer
French American screenwriter, senior screenwriter at DramaWave, former ReelShort/Wattpad/Tapas writer
DramaWave
Episode: In House Staff Writing Verticals with Astrid Carlen-Helmer
Meagan Johnson
Avid reviewer and creator in the vertical drama space who runs the Vertical View crew
Vertical View crew
Episode: What The Fans love about Verticals with Meagan Johnson
Dana Protsyshak
Founder of Dana Productions, Vertigo Media, and the LA Vertical Drama Market; creator of multi-format vertical projects
Dana Productions / Vertigo Media / LA Vertical Drama Market
Episode: The Birth of the LA Vertical Drama Market with Dana Protsyshak
Rachel Zilberg
Lead writer at Shorts, spearheading a team of nine freelance screenwriters
Shorts
Episode: From Mobile Romance Games to Verticals with Rachel Zilberg
Ben Odell
Media executive, producer, and strategist; CEO and co-founder of 3Pas Studio; founder of Open Gardens and Vertical Bloom Substack
3Pas Studio; Open Gardens; Vertical Bloom
Episode: The Convergence of Legacy Media and The Creator Economy with Ben Odell

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Natalie
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5.0 out of 5 stars from 6 ratings
  • Dena Dizdar Plumer is the one to watch!

    Dena’s writing and her choices are intense and intentional! Love that she has such an honest and professional approach to career pivoting and living life boldly! I was the intimacy coordinator on Vampires Always Knock Twice. An elegant story with top notch crew, and beautiful cast and costumes. Can’t wait to see the rest of it!

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    United States4 months ago

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Experts share practical tips for building a career in vertical storytelling.
Conversations blend craft with market realities, useful for listeners who want to produce content.
Community-building through labs and events stands out as a key resource for creators.
Industry insiders offer candid takes on platform dynamics and funding challenges.

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Can Comedy Work in Verticals? with Eli Shell
Q: How did you find the characters for In-House and decide who would lead the story?
Characters were drawn from real-life experiences and archetypes I've encountered; I blend traits from people I've known to create anchors the audience can recognize and relate to, while keeping them distinct enough to drive the plot.
The Convergence of Legacy Media and The Creator Economy with Ben Odell
Q: What drew you to the vertical market and what makes VertiGals compelling as a format?
Odell discusses disruption of traditional gate-kept systems, the ability to reach audiences directly, and the potential for verticals to coexist with legacy productions while expanding storytelling forms.
The Convergence of Legacy Media and The Creator Economy with Ben Odell
Q: Tell us about yourself and how you moved from screenwriting to the vertical space.
Ben Odell describes a career arc from production roles to producing VertiGals and digital content, emphasizing the convergence of legacy media with creator-driven formats and the strategic use of Substack to explore this shift.
From Mobile Romance Games to Verticals with Rachel Zilberg
Q: What does a writer in the vertical space actually do, and how does it differ from traditional game or film writing?
A writer crafts short, highly focused stories where every line must carry weight; there is intense collaboration in small teams, with a strong emphasis on pacing, snappy dialogue, and audience relatability within a limited runtime.
Writing & Directing Verticals with Kristen Brancaccio
Q: How do you approach micro dramas differently from traditional TV or film?
I start by acknowledging the competition for attention on social feeds and then design a fast hook, tighten the premise quickly, and structure the story so the audience cares within minutes, then gradually expand the world while keeping the pace appropriate for short-form consumption.

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A tight-knit, specialist series that explores the craft and business of vertical micro-dramas. Episodes typically feature conversations with writers, producers, and industry leaders who share practical insights on fast-paced production, storytelling constraints, platform dynamics, localization, and the evolving economics of vertical content. Notable throughlines include balancing creative risks with expedient production, the role of AI and data in writing and marketing, and the ongoing convergence between legacy media and creator-driven formats. The show often blends practical how-tos with candid industry observations, offering actionable tips for aspiring vertical writers, producers, and brands looking to sponsor or participate in this rap... more

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1. Scott Brown
2. Stacy Howard
3. Eli Shell
4. Jason Mayfield
5. Astrid Carlen-Helmer
6. Meagan Johnson
7. Dana Protsyshak
8. Rachel Zilberg

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