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A podcast on architecture and urbanism.

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Intro/Outro: “Barbarian,” by The Darkness

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Discussed:

Alexandros Washburn (author, Chatting with Barbarians)

Chatting with Barbarians (book site)

Greg Lindsay (co-host, urbanist/journalist)

Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan

The Ephebic Oath of... more

Intro/Outro: “The Housebuilding Song,” by David Ferguson

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Discussed:

People

Ned Resnikoff (guest) — Resnikoff Consulting · Public Comment newsletter

Greg Lindsay (co-host) — greglindsay.org

Dan Safarik (co-host) — LinkedIn

Christopher Cabald... more

Intro/Outro: "Balls," by Sparks

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Discussed:

• “Photography: The Middle Class Medium”

• Family Propaganda Portraits

• Photo-Marxism

• Bruce Weber

• Susan Sontag

• Cindy Sherman

• Walker Evans

• Loriel Beltran

• Marvin Heiferman

• Jose Antonio Nav... more

Intro/Outro: “The Chain,” by Fleetwood Mac

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Discussed:

People

• Bryan Boyer — co-author; Taubman College, University of Michigan (transcript: "Taubin College")

• Greg Lindsay — co-author; U of T School of Cities

• Frank Duffy — DEGW co-founder,... more

Intro/Outro: “Spacelab,” by Kraftwerk

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Interviewees:

Greg Lemke, PhD, Distinguished Professor Emeritus, Salk Institute

Ryan Rosen, Friendly Futures

John Galante, President, AE Ventures

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People

Louis Kahn — architect of the... more

Intro/Outro: “Fixing a Hole,” by The Beatles

Discussed:

The Other Housing Crisis: Ending the Deterioration and Loss of Affordable Homes. Todd Swanstrom, A.T. Harrison & Alan Mallach, eds., Princeton University Press, 2026

The American Housing Surv... more

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Intro/Outro: “Big Road,” by Jon Spencer Blues Explosion

Discussed:

Transportation and the Shape of Cities

Christoph Spieler

Mandi Chapa

David Copeland Laredo

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Trains, Buses, People: an Opinionated Atlas of US and Canadian Transit

Americ... more

Intro/Outro: “Roscoe,” by Midlake

Andrew James Gregor

Roscoe

Blue Dog Construction

Embarcadero Center

John Portman

Hyatt Regency San Francisco

The Clift Hotel’s Redwood Room

The Tenderloin

“Hostile” architecture

Interboro Partners: The Arse... more

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Recent Guests

Zachary Balber
Photographer showcasing Intimate Strangers, a portfolio centered on Miami real estate
Balber Photography
Episode: 69. Trespass 1: Intimate Stranger
Todd Swanstrom
Author/editor of The Other Housing Crisis; Professor of Public Policy Administration at University of Missouri–St. Louis
University of Missouri–St. Louis
Episode: 127. The Other Housing Crisis
Christoph Spieler
Author of Transportation and the Shape of Cities; planner and engineer
City of Madison, Wisconsin (Director of Transportation)
Episode: 126. Transportation and the Shape of Cities
David Copeland-Lorito
Architect turned urban planner; co-author
Lionheart Places
Episode: 126. Transportation and the Shape of Cities
Mandi Chapa
Planner with architecture background; co-author
Lionheart Places
Episode: 126. Transportation and the Shape of Cities
Andrew James Gregor
Author of Roscoe, Architect
Blue Dog Renovation (mentioned)
Episode: 125. Roscoe
Chase Billingham
Author of All American City, Bluster, Boom, and Bust in Wichita
Wichita State University
Episode: 122. All-American City
Stefan Al
Author of Dwelling on Earth, The Past and Future of the Places We Call Home
Author/Architectural Scholar
Episode: 121. Dwelling on Earth
Christine Roussel
Archivist at Rockefeller Center and author of Lunch on a Beam
Rockefeller Center
Episode: 120. Lunch on a Beam

Hosts

Greg Lindsay
Co-host of the show, often guiding interviews and providing a design/academic perspective.
Dan Safarik
Co-host and interviewer, frequently guiding discussion with guests.

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127. The Other Housing Crisis
Q: How should cities balance gentrification concerns with preserving housing stock for long-term residents?
Acknowledge displacement fears, pursue inclusive development, and invest in middle neighborhoods to stabilize and improve housing while enabling existing residents to stay and benefit from neighborhood revitalization.
127. The Other Housing Crisis
Q: What policy shifts or programs could better address this issue beyond traditional tax credits?
A shift toward a 'whole-home' approach, expansion of funding for repair and preservation, and local bond programs to stabilize neighborhoods can complement supply-side measures and reduce long-term costs.
127. The Other Housing Crisis
Q: Why is data on housing quality so challenging to obtain, and how does this affect policy?
Existing national data focuses on affordability metrics like 30% income, but there is little robust national data on housing quality; this hampers informed policy-making and prioritization of repairs versus new construction.
127. The Other Housing Crisis
Q: What is the missing piece in the housing affordability conversation, and how does it change the narrative?
The missing piece is the quality and condition of existing housing; affordability cannot be separated from the health, safety, and livability of homes, and preserving and repairing stock can be a more efficient respond than only expanding supply.
125. Roscoe
Q: What kind of policy solutions might help with the turnaround for homelessness in cities like San Francisco?
The guest suggests that there are models from other cities—sometimes radical—that show potential, such as programs that provide housing with support to help people regain dignity and employment, and emphasizes empathy and practical, locally grounded approaches rather than one-size-fits-all solutions.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Unfrozen

What is Unfrozen about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This series centers on architecture and urbanism, pairing two hosts with a rotating roster of guests who are scholars, critics, historians, and practitioners. Conversations cover how cities are planned, built, and managed, with frequent forays into policy, heritage, gentrification, infrastructure, and the social implications of design. Episodes blend historical context, case studies, and contemporary debates, often weaving in anecdotes and behind-the-scenes perspectives on planning, public space, and the economics of development. The show stands out for its hands-on exploration of urban phenomena—from mid-century desert modernism to the politics of public buildings and the lived realities of housing—delivering thoughtful, option-finding dis... more

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