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Creator Economy
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Artificial Intelligence
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Crisis Communications
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Virality In Marketing
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Analyst Relations
Chili Piper
PESO Model
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Empathy In Leadership

Welcome to 🎙️Under Embargo—the no fluff, no filters, no f*cks given communications podcast.

PR and communications have never been messier. AI is ruining brand voice, CEOs’ hot takes matter more than actual products, and the best media relationships happen in DMs (where LinkedIn holds more sway than The Wall Street Journal.) Meanwhile, comms pros are now ghostwriters, social strategists, prompt e... more

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Brett Farlow, founder and CEO of Featured.com and the person who brought Help A Reporter Out back from the dead, breaks down how his team rebuilt trust in journalist-source matching after AI-generated pitches and spam eroded the platform's quality. T... more

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Former Walmart and Pinterest comms leader Meredith Klein joins Perry Hedrick and Becca Chambers to break down how PR professionals can adapt to a fragmented media landscape where Substacks, podcasts, and independent journalists carry real influence. ... more

Struggling with adapting fast-paced communications strategies to public sector realities? Ian Bain, executive director of strategy and communications, reveals the mindset shifts and tactical approaches that helped bridge his transition from corporate... more

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Struggling with integrating AI into your communications strategy? Gini Dietrich, creator of the PESO Model and communications leader, reveals actionable ways to align paid, earned, shared, and owned media workflows with modern AI tools for better res... more

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Recent Guests

Meredith Klein
Head of Consumer & Product Communications at Pinterest
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Episode: Meredith in the Media: What Happens When a PR Veteran Flips the Model and Interviews the Journalists w/ Meredith Klein, Head of Consumer & Product Communications at Pinterest
Ian Bain
Executive Director of Strategy and Communications for the San Mateo County Office of Education
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Episode: Pushing Past Bureaucracy: Fast-Tracking Comms Strategy and AI in Public Affairs w/ Ian Bain, Communications Expert at ianbain.org
Gini Dietrich
Founder and CEO of Spin Sucks, author, PESO Model architect
Spin Sucks
Episode: Integrating AI Into PESO: Shattering Silos and Building the Future of Comms Talent w/ Gini Dietrich, Founder and CEO at Spin Sucks
Brooke Kruger
Founder of KC Partners, communications recruiter
KC Partners
Episode: A Comms Recruiter Perspective: Shifting Skill Sets and the New Comms Career Playbook w/ Brooke Kruger, Communications Recruiter and Founder at KC Partners
Chris Gee
AI consultant; founder of Chris Gee Consulting
Chris Gee Consulting
Episode: AI Isn’t Autopilot: Real Tactics for Upskilling Comms and Winning Earned Attention w/ Chris Gee
Alina Vandenberghe
Co-founder and Co-CEO of Chili Piper
Chili Piper
Episode: Rewriting Corporate Culture: How Chili Piper Scales with Humans, AI Agents, and Radical Decision-Making w/ Alina Vandenberghe, Co-Founder at Chili Piper
Gabrielle Ferree
Founder of Off the Record, a community for comms professionals
Off the Record
Episode: It’s Not Just Strategy: Emotional Labor and the Need for Community in Comms with Gabrielle Ferree, Founder at Off the Record
Alyssa Stone
Head of Analyst Relations at Wiz (cybersecurity), former AR and executive communications leader at Okta, SAP, Ariba
Wiz
Episode: AR is Not Pay-for-Play: 25 Years in Comms w/ Alyssa Stone, Leading Analyst Relations at Wiz
Roberto Munoz
CEO and Founder of Munoz Communications, a strategic comms consultancy
Munoz Communications
Episode: Comms Shouldn’t Report to Marketing—Here’s Why with Roberto Munoz, CEO & Founder at Munoz Communications

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Becca Chambers
Co-host, CMO of Scale Venture Partners. No BS corporate comms expert with a focus on authenticity and engagement in communications.
Parry Headrick
Co-host, Founder of Crackle PR. Known for his sharp insights and media relationships, adept at cutting through corporate jargon.

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Integrating AI Into PESO: Shattering Silos and Building the Future of Comms Talent w/ Gini Dietrich, Founder and CEO at Spin Sucks
Q: How has AI changed the way PESO is applied?
AI now helps with visibility engineering, content mapping, and analyzing large sets of data to surface trends, but it also requires rethinking how owned and earned media are used, including non-traditional outlets like newsletters and podcasts.
Integrating AI Into PESO: Shattering Silos and Building the Future of Comms Talent w/ Gini Dietrich, Founder and CEO at Spin Sucks
Q: What is the PESO Model and where did it come from?
Gini explains that PESO stands for paid, earned, shared, and owned media, and it emerged from a traditional PR mindset that expanded to include social, inbound, and content to ensure consistent messaging across all touchpoints.
Rewriting Corporate Culture: How Chili Piper Scales with Humans, AI Agents, and Radical Decision-Making w/ Alina Vandenberghe, Co-Founder at Chili Piper
Q: What red flags prompted you to start Chili Piper and pursue entrepreneurship with your husband?
She cites a desire to escape the politics of large corporations, a passion for building rather than climbing, and a belief that talent should lead, not politics—driving them to create a flat, transparent organization where decisions are made collectively.
Rewriting Corporate Culture: How Chili Piper Scales with Humans, AI Agents, and Radical Decision-Making w/ Alina Vandenberghe, Co-Founder at Chili Piper
Q: How did you start building your LinkedIn presence and your personal brand?
Alina describes forcing herself to post daily for about a year, which helped her find her voice and reduce fear of being in the public eye, ultimately turning social media into a growth lever for her company and personal brand.
AI Isn’t Autopilot: Real Tactics for Upskilling Comms and Winning Earned Attention w/ Chris Gee
Q: How did you decide to make it specifically for communications, PR, and corporate comms folks?
Chris explains the motivation came from seeing a gap between generic AI tools and concrete, everyday tasks in PR, like slide production and thought leadership, and then building a practice around those use cases.

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An unvarnished exploration of the communications and PR landscape, this podcast offers listeners an authentic perspective on the chaos that defines modern public relations. With hosts who are deeply entrenched in the industry, discussions cover the multifaceted roles communications professionals now occupy, including ghostwriting, social strategizing, and leveraging AI. Emphasis is placed on the necessity for effective communication to extend beyond traditional media outlets, advocating for a more personal and direct approach to media relationships. Episodes frequently touch upon pressing issues like the impact of AI on brand voice, the evolving dynamics of corporate communication, and the importance of genuine storytelling. The hosts' can... more

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