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The Students

The Students
Polygenic Embryo Selection
Carroll Quigley
IVF
Gene Editing
Intelligence
Health
Nick Land
Spengler
Western Civilization
China
Industrial Capitalism

Discussions on history, philosophy, politics, science, and civilizational questions. We're here to learn.

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The Peloponnesian War destroyed the Greek world and exposed the violence behind the civilized facade, much like the World Wars of the 20th century. Maxim Dmitrienko walks us through Thucydides' timeless History.

Should a student of the 21st century read Plato and Aristotle? Stephen Pimentel explains how Greek philosophy helps us to see past the conceits of our own era.

Carroll Quigley's 1961 book The Evolution of Civilizations describes the stages a civilization goes through as it grows, expands, decays, and falls. Ben Landau-Taylor tells us how Quigley's theory works, and where our civilization sits in this proces... more

DC Posch and Wolf Tivy read Meltdown from Nick Land, the prophet of 21st century artificial intelligence and runaway capitalism.

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How Civilizations Die
Q: Can we see contemporary examples of a potential circumvention or are we in a universal empire?
The conversation suggests we are in a period of ongoing expansion but with heavy encumbrances, and possible circumventions could occur via new social technologies or regional innovations (e.g., Silicon Valley-era organizational models or European social dynamics). However, the speakers acknowledge the model is heuristic and not rigid, making precise classification difficult.
How Civilizations Die
Q: How does the engine of expansion work and what causes it to fail?
The engine expands wealth and production by reinvesting surplus; it becomes encumbered by 'barnacles'—institutionalizations and special interests that divert flows from reinvestment to maintenance or privilege—leading to stagnation and crisis. War can both reflect and accelerate this tension, but the internal political and economic dynamics ultimately determine whether a new engine can arise.
How Civilizations Die
Q: What are Quigley's seven stages, and how do civilizations rise and fall according to this framework?
The discussion outlines a progression from a mixed initiation of civilization, through gestation, expansion with an evolving economic engine, to later stages where the engine slows and internal conflict increases, potentially leading to a universal empire or a circumvention by a new engine. The hosts highlight the non-linear, contingent nature of transitions and emphasize that breakdowns in old systems can allow new forms to emerge.

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