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The Making (and Unmaking) of Mothers After Midnight

Lucy Wolfe and Ellen Wolfe
Sleep
Motherhood
Canada
Infant Reflux
Bedtime
Sleep Training
Therapy
Postpartum Depression
Breastfeeding
Sleep Deprivation

This is a podcast that explores honest and real experiences with sleep. The good, the not so good, the idealised, and the actual. Exposing the unseen emotional and embodied labour of care, when women work the night shift. Hosted by child and adolescent sleep consultant Lucy Wolfe, MA Psych RM and PhD researcher, co-hosted by Ellen Wolfe.

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Buckle up! We have switched things around this episode, and Lucy is in the hot seat. We get to hear some background, and have her answer some of her go-to questions before we dive into our Q&A segment. This episode is just brimming with advice, we ca... more

Welcome back to another midnight chapter! Today we are talking to the fantastic Roberta von Meding, who you may know as the editor of Mums and Tots magazine. This is a gorgeous episode full of reflection, and wise perspectives from a mum who has move... more

Welcome back! This week we are joined by Elaine, who shares her gorgeous perspective and experiences with her three children. This is a lovely gentle episode, especially if you are in the trenches at the moment. Things will always get better!

The Ma... more

Welcome back to The Making (and Unmaking)! This week we are joined by Emma who shared with us her story of navigating illness and sleep. Emma shares some fantastic insight for parents who may be facing similar issues. We also discuss how difficult it... more

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Nothing Lasts Forever with Elaine
Q: If this episode had a title, what would you think it should be?
Elaine responds with Nothing lasts forever, framing the sleep journey as a phase that will pass and emphasizing the value of the work and routines during this time.
Nothing Lasts Forever with Elaine
Q: Tell me a little bit about yourselves, like, what ages are your children?
Elaine explains she has three daughters: Leah almost four, Rena two, and Ada five months, describing the busy dynamic and the need for routines.
It's OK, It's Just One Day At A Time with Jessie
Q: Being in a multinational household, are there any cultural norms that you guys encountered that stood out?
Cultural expectations around expressing needs and seeking help differed, with North American openness to vocalizing needs contrasting with more reserved Irish norms, yet the core challenge remained consistent across cultures: balancing care, sleep needs, and partnership.
It's OK, It's Just One Day At A Time with Jessie
Q: If this episode that we're recording today had a title based on your story, what would it be?
The title would be It's Okay, It's Just One Day at a Time, signaling a gentle acceptance of the ongoing, imperfect sleep reality and the resilience required to keep going.

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