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The Four Horsemen

Last Free Nation
Esports
Evil Geniuses
Counter-Strike
League Of Legends
Twitch
Dota 2
Riot Games
Saudi Arabia
Alex Garfield
Tournament Organizers
Valve
Valorant
LCS
Activision Blizzard
Peak6
NRG
Immortals
Cloud9
Team Liquid
CGS

The Four Horsemen is the premier esports industry show that reacts to important news and critical conversations across all major titles. Esports veterans Duncan "Thorin" Shields, Richard Lewis, and Christopher "MonteCristo" Mykles use their decades of experience to shed light and debate on key esports topics as they emerge. Each episode they are joined by an expert guest to help further provide in... more

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Latest Episodes

What actually happened to 2XKO? Rooflemonger joins MonteCristo, Thorin, and Richard Lewis for a deep dive into Riot Games’ new fighter: 2XKO. We discuss its rocky launch, confusing name, use of the League of Legends IP, small roster, monetization str... more

Should Riot Games remove franchising from League of Legends? In this episode of The Four Horsemen, Monte, Thorin, Richard Lewis, and Guest Horseman/esports attorney Harris Peskin break down why franchising was created, what the teams actually demande... more

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The esports model for teams is broken! We break down why the current esports ecosystem is financially broken for teams and how publisher-controlled revenue models have created deep misalignment. Featuring Gen.G CEO Arnold Hur, the conversation explor... more

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The Four Horsemen deliver their annual State of League of Legends! PapaSmithy joins MonteCristo, Thorin, and Richard Lewis begin by discussing the LCS and its troubled recent history. They react to "The Data" that convinced Riot Games to switch the L... more

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Recent Guests

Harris Peskin
A lawyer with experience in esports business consulting.
Episode: Should They Remove Franchising From League of Legends? (ft. Harris Peskin)
Arnold Hur
CEO of Gen.G, a prominent esports organization.
Gen.G
Episode: Will All Esports Fail? (ft. Arnold Hur)
Devin Nash
Industry expert and commentator on esports and gaming marketing
Episode: The Twitch Viewbot Problem Is WORSE Than You Think... (ft Devin Nash)
Barry Lee
A lawyer and player agent fluent in English and Korean.
Evolved Talent
Episode: The Zeus & T1 Controversy Explained (ft Barry Lee)
Neil M
Former manager of Into the Breach
Episode: How This CEO Stole Millions From His Own Esports Org (ft Neil_M)
Alban Dechelotte
CEO of G2 Esports
G2 Esports
Episode: The State of League of Legends / Sit Down With G2's CEO Stilgar
Jason Lake
Owner of Complexity and a noted figure in the esports industry.
Complexity Gaming
Episode: The Declining State of Counter-Strike... (ft Jason Lake)

Hosts

Duncan "Thorin" Shields
Co-host and esports veteran known for insightful analysis on key esports topics, with a focus on the industry's dynamics and historical context.
Richard Lewis
Co-host and renowned esports journalist providing critical commentary on industry issues and trends, celebrated for his deep knowledge and often controversial opinions.
Christopher "MonteCristo" Mykles
Co-host and esports commentator with extensive experience in broadcasting and production, integrating analytical perspectives on competitive gaming and esports narratives.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 353 ratings
  • Truly excellent content

    I’ve gotten to a point where I am almost rooting for disaster in esports because it means we will get a new episode of this show.

    I’m very happy with the balance and depth of the conversations, hoping the episodes stay long and detailed!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Richards Butt Boy
    United States5 years ago
  • Excellent.

    An excellent way to keep up on the issues in esports. Only when the summoning ritual is completed do I know an issue is worth my time.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    CodyNat20
    United States5 years ago

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Critics appreciate the candid approach to industry controversies, even though it can sometimes provoke strong opinions.
Listeners praise the insightful discussions and depth of analysis on pressing esports issues.
The engaging dialogues keep audiences informed and entertained, making them eager for upcoming episodes.

Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

The State Of Counter-Strike in 2025 (ft messioso)
Q: What are the challenges facing the North American Counter-Strike scene currently?
The North American scene struggles with securing substantial sponsorships, which affects the viability of teams and their ability to compete at high levels.
The State Of Counter-Strike in 2025 (ft messioso)
Q: How did 100 Thieves manage to secure sponsors that Complexity struggled with?
Messioso deflected the question, mentioning that he joined after the sponsorships were secured, indicating that the team's approach to branding as North America's team attracted sponsors.
The Twitch Viewbot Problem Is WORSE Than You Think... (ft Devin Nash)
Q: What is the current status of viewbotting on Twitch?
The viewbotting problem is prevalent, with nearly 40% of views reportedly being non-human traffic.
The Zeus & T1 Controversy Explained (ft Barry Lee)
Q: What is the sentiment around staying loyal to the team that brought you up?
The culture in Korea is changing, and players are more open to testing free agency and seeking the best deal for themselves, unlike in the past when loyalty was heavily valued.
The Zeus & T1 Controversy Explained (ft Barry Lee)
Q: Do you have any insight, Barry, into the way that these negotiations work when players have exclusive negotiating rights prior to their contract ending?
The team can choose whether the player can talk to anyone else until the off-season arrives when their contract expires. Agents generally gauge interest beforehand but can only officially negotiate once the contract is up.

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What is The Four Horsemen about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Focusing on critical conversations and the latest news related to the esports industry, this podcast shares insights and analysis from seasoned veterans. The engaging discussions revolve around various key topics within esports, such as the future of specific games, the financial intricacies of team sustainability, and the challenges presented by evolving publisher-team dynamics. Notable guests enhance each episode by providing deep dives into their area of expertise, enabling a comprehensive exploration of current issues ranging from franchising and sponsorships to player contracts and the complex ecosystem of esports governance. The podcast is characterized by a mix of analytical rigor and a candid, sometimes controversial, approach to ad... more

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3. Devin Nash
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6. Alban Dechelotte
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