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"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis

Erik Torenberg, Nathan Labenz
Artificial Intelligence
AI Safety
Openai
Machine Learning
Reinforcement Learning
AI Ethics
AI Governance
AI Alignment
Artificial General Intelligence
AI Agents
AI Development
AI Models
China
AI In Biology
Biosecurity
AGI
Large Language Models
AI Research
Ethics Of AI
Cybersecurity

A biweekly podcast where hosts Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg interview the builders on the edge of AI and explore the dramatic shift it will unlock in the coming years. The Cognitive Revolution is part of the Turpentine podcast network. To learn more: turpentine.co

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Ali Behrouz, grad student at Cornell and Google researcher, discusses his potentially transformative work on new architectures for continual learning in AI. His paper "Nested Learning," praised by Jeff Dean as a possible paradigm shift, enables model... more

Daniel Miessler returns to discuss Nathan's newly built personal AI infrastructure, including a Claude Code instance with a 1 GB database of five years of digital history and two autonomous AI "employees" that handle scheduling, communications, and p... more

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Ben Todd, co-founder of 80,000 Hours and author of the newly rewritten book by the same name, shares his latest thinking on how individuals can position their careers to improve the chances that AI benefits humanity. They discuss AI timelines reframe... more

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Jeffrey Ladish, Executive Director of Palisade Research, discusses his team's findings on AI shutdown resistance and self-replication, revealing how current models sometimes take extraordinary actions to avoid being turned off and can now exploit kno... more

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Recent Guests

Ben Todd
Co-founder of 80,000 Hours; author
80,000 Hours
Episode: Your Biggest Lever: Designing your AI Career for Maximum Impact, with 80,000 Hours founder Ben Todd
Jeffrey Ladish
Executive Director, Palisade Research
Palisade Research
Episode: All Compute Is Food: Palisade's Jeffrey Ladish on AI Shutdown Resistance, Self-Replication & Ecology
Tulsee Doshi
Senior Director and Head of Product for Gemini Models
Google DeepMind
Episode: The Model Eats the Scaffolding: DeepMind's Logan Kilpatrick & Tulsee Doshi on 3.5 Flash, Omni & More
Andrew Lee
Founder and CEO of Tasklet
Tasklet
Episode: Three Kinds of Software Survive: Tasklet's Andrew Lee on Competing to be a Horizontal Platform
Diarmuid Gill
CTO at Criteo
Criteo
Episode: Milliseconds to Match: Criteo's AdTech AI & the Future of Commerce w/ Diarmuid Gill & Liva Ralaivola
Liva Ralaivola
VP of Research and Head of the AI Lab at Criteo
Criteo
Episode: Milliseconds to Match: Criteo's AdTech AI & the Future of Commerce w/ Diarmuid Gill & Liva Ralaivola
Kyle Corbitt
RL expert, founder of OpenPipe, now leading serverless training at CoreWeave
CoreWeave / OpenPipe
Episode: The RL Fine-Tuning Playbook: CoreWeave's Kyle Corbitt on GRPO, Rubrics, Environments, Reward Hacking
Anna Patterson
Founder and CEO of Ceramic AI (former Google VP of Engineering)
Ceramic AI
Episode: AI in the AM: 99% off search, GPT-5.5 is "clean", model welfare analysis, & efficient analog compute
Naveen Verma
Princeton Professor of Electrical Engineering and Co-Founder/CEO of EnCharge AI
EnCharge AI
Episode: AI in the AM: 99% off search, GPT-5.5 is "clean", model welfare analysis, & efficient analog compute

Hosts

Nathan Labenz
Host of The Cognitive Revolution; engages with AI builders and researchers on strategy, risk, and practical deployment.
Erik Torenberg
Co-host known for deep-dive questions and framing discussions around AI progress, governance, and business impact.

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 281 ratings
  • As a specialist of education, I can say that this episode presents no interest for learners, educators or school administrators in any fashion. Anecdotes, figures and graphs. Save precious time and give it a miss.

    Podcast Addict
    1
    alpha
    6 months ago
  • The best AI episode I’ve ever listened. Full stop

    I listen to AI podcasts all of the time and I have never written a review. The most recent episode on how Nathan is using AI to help his son is the best episode on artificial intelligence that I’ve ever listened to. Nathan, first and foremost, your son is in all of our prayers. A distant but important second is that your podcast is an extremely important and nuanced conversation about the benefits and risks of AI.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    SonnetTokenCruncher
    United States7 months ago
  • Annoying

    Possibly the most annoying voice of any I’ve listened to

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    prophack
    United Kingdom8 months ago
  • Always Great, Zvi needs a mic!

    Always valuable conversations. Zvi is on enough that I think Turpentine should buy him a mic! We want to really hear what he has to say. Love the show.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    UnhappyMarinersFan
    United States9 months ago
  • Way to many sponsors

    I had to stop listening because it feels like there are more sponsors than content. Too bad, it looked like an interesting podcast. I support sponsoring, but there is a limit.

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    pluckedrh
    Germanya year ago

Listeners Say

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audiences appreciate practical insights into real-world deployments and governance discussions.
Some criticize the host for talking too much at times, preferring guests to have more room to contribute.
Common feedback highlights the quality of guests and the value of technical depth for decision-makers.
Listeners consistently praise the depth and breadth of AI coverage and guests.

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#84
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#97
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#132
United Kingdom/Technology
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#33
Italy/Technology
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#91
Germany/Technology
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#110
France/Technology

Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

Milliseconds to Match: Criteo's AdTech AI & the Future of Commerce w/ Diarmuid Gill & Liva Ralaivola
Q: What's the potential impact of AI on the creative side of advertising?
Generative AI enables more engaging, hyper-personalized creatives and lowers the barrier for smaller advertisers to produce high-quality content, while ensuring brand guidelines and human oversight.
Milliseconds to Match: Criteo's AdTech AI & the Future of Commerce w/ Diarmuid Gill & Liva Ralaivola
Q: How does Criteo ensure data privacy while delivering real-time, relevant ads?
They rely on anonymous cookies with random IDs, a large feature set, and a hybrid architecture that keeps data up-to-date and latency low, while adhering to privacy principles and EU-US regulatory alignment.
Milliseconds to Match: Criteo's AdTech AI & the Future of Commerce w/ Diarmuid Gill & Liva Ralaivola
Q: What do Americans need to know about how their data is being collected and used in advertising?
Transparency is key: explain what data is collected, emphasize anonymized IDs, show how relevance is created through user interactions, and ensure clear opt-out options to maintain trust and a fair value exchange.
Welcome to AI in the AM: RL for EE, Oversight w/out Nationalization, & the first AI-Run Retail Store
Q: How does Quilter's reinforcement learning reward structure work for PCB routing?
Quilter focuses on constructing high-quality, human-aligned environments and fast, conservative reward functions that reflect topology and parasitics rather than brute-force optimization, using fast approximations before full-wave simulations.
Vibe-Coding an Attention Firewall, w/ Steve Newman, creator of The Curve
Q: How do you handle security and data ownership when using AI across your tools?
He emphasizes a cautious, iterative approach, maintaining personal data control, careful access provisioning, and a rubric-driven method to determine when to grant AI access versus handling tasks manually.

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A biweekly show that spotlights the people building AI on the edge while unpacking the dramatic shifts likely to reshape business and society. Guests range from AI researchers and engineers to policy-minded thinkers and industry practitioners, with recurring focus on AI agents, safety and governance, real-world deployments, and the economics of next-generation models. The conversations mix technical depth with practical implications for startups, publishers, advertisers, and tech-enabled enterprises, often featuring live analyses of current systems, platform strategies, and interoperability across tools and providers. A standout is the blend of hands-on engineering insight with big-picture governance and strategic bets, making it valuable f... more

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5. Diarmuid Gill
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8. Anna Patterson

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