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Talking About Birds: A St. Louis Cardinals Podcast

Nate Heininger & Ben Simorka
St. Louis Cardinals
Nolan Arenado
Jordan Walker
Major League Baseball
Sonny Gray
Baseball
Brendan Donovan
Trade Deadline
Ryan Helsley
Willson Contreras
Nolan Gorman
MLB
Chicago Cubs
JJ Wetherholt
Alec Burleson
Zips Projection System
Spring Training
Victor Scott
Mason Wynn
Paul Goldschmidt

The only Cardinals podcast dumber than running on Yadi. A weekly podcast mostly about the St. Louis Cardinals.

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Latest Episodes

The show is cursed. Last week's audio came out haunted, three Cardinals hit the IL in a matter of days, and Nate and Ben have made peace with the grudge ghost now living in the podcast. Between hauntings they cover a tired, banged-up team still hangi... more

Joshua Baez made maybe the greatest MLB debuts of all time — three home runs, three different pitches, three different parts of the ballpark. Nate and Ben soak it in, then dig into a Cardinals team that's back above .500 and squarely in the wild card... more

The Cardinals are hovering around .500 and mostly out of the race — but the offense is waking up at the perfect time. Alec Burleson is launching bombs, Ivan Herrera is crushing everything again, and José Fermín looks like the next guy about to break ... more

The Cardinals sold at the deadline — Dustin May and JoJo Romero are Brewers, Lars Nootbaar is a Diamondback, and the returns are genuinely exciting. Nate and Ben break down the four prospects coming back, why the Dustin May signing worked out about a... more

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Recent Guests

Kyle Reese
Friend of the show; Cardinals draft and development expert
Cardinal Nation / Cardinals coverage
Episode: I Believe the Children are the Future (w/ Kyle Reis)
Daniel Shoptaw
Friend of the show, blog author and baseball analyst
C70
Episode: Better Than Albert (w/ Daniel Shoptaw)
Chaim Bloom
President of Baseball Operations for the St. Louis Cardinals (as discussed in episode)
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Episode: Blunt Rotation
Ben Clemens
Writer and analyst at FanGraphs
FanGraphs
Episode: Graph Fans (w/ Ben Clemens)
Jake Wood
Writer and podcaster for Viva Elberto's
Viva Elberto's
Episode: It's a Packed Show (w/ Jake Wood)
Nick Pollack
Founder of PitcherList, known for fantasy baseball analysis and pitching insights
PitcherList
Episode: Pitchers Missed (w/ Nick Pollack)
Dan Szymborski
Senior writer for FanGraphs, ESPN contributor and creator of the Zips Projection System.
FanGraphs
Episode: unZIPped with Dan (w/ Dan Szymborski)

Hosts

Nate Heininger
Host of the Cardinals-focused show with a strong back-and-forth dynamic and data-informed takes.
Ben Seymour
Co-host known for chemistry with Nate and for blending humor with practical baseball insights.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 78 ratings
  • Knowledgeable and Finny

    Ben and Nathan balance their love of the Cardinals with an understanding that it should be fun and silly to think this much about baseball.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    LousyHusband
    United States6 months ago
  • I enjoy watching baseball

    My go-to cardinals podcast. Nate and Ben are knowledgeable and hilarious.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Lazilbean
    United States8 months ago
  • Great show

    The guys are knowledgeable and informative. Great chemistry, with the right mix of baseball commentary and humor.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Lone Star Yankee
    United Statesa year ago
  • These guys know their stuff and deliver a great conversation about the birds. Many times they take the words right out of my mouth (lately the frustrations) or they answer/address the question that I had been asking myself all week. Highly recommend this entertaining and informative pod.

    Audible
    5
    jbt
    United States2 years ago
  • Entertaining and informative

    These guys know their stuff and deliver a great conversation about the birds. Many times they take the words right out of my mouth (lately the frustrations) or they answer/address the question that I had been asking myself all week. Highly recommend this entertaining and informative pod.

    Audible
    5
    jbt
    United States2 years ago

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Show is described as comforting and top-tier for Cardinals fans, with strong community vibes.
Listeners appreciate the mix of deep Cardinals knowledge and fun banter.
Chemistry between hosts is consistently praised for being entertaining and informative.

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I Believe the Children are the Future (w/ Kyle Reis)
Q: Kyle, who did the Cardinals select with the 18th overall pick in the 2021 draft?
Kyle Reis answered Michael McGreevey correctly.
Blunt Rotation
Q: Where do you see the Cardinals this season in terms of the competitive window and the role of younger players?
Bloom indicated the team is not yet at its peak but is building around a core of young players who can grow into a competitive team, with longer-term potential rather than a single-year all-in push.
Blunt Rotation
Q: What is your thought on extensions and how do you view the risk between the player and the organization?
Bloom described it as a two-way street where the organization and player share risk, which makes extensions inherently cautious and contingent on long-term value rather than short-term gains.
(We Hope) The Kids Are All Right - Opening Day 2026! (w/ Daniel Shoptaw)
Q: Who will win the opening-day game against the Rays?
The hosts pick the Cardinals to win, with Libby (Liberatore) matching up favorably against the Rays, reflecting optimism for the season opener.
Hunks Are Back
Q: How did your recent sporting experience compare to attending a Cardinals game?
The live experience of the Nuggets game was exciting with visible physicality, crowd interaction, and the overall atmosphere was quite different than that of a baseball game.

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A lively two-host show focused on the St. Louis Cardinals, mixing in-depth baseball analysis with playful banter, fan-friendly segments, and occasional guests. Topics span player performance, roster moves, farm system prospects, and what it all means for the team's trajectory, with running jokes and pop culture detours that keep the conversation accessible for devoted fans. The format tends to be informal, fast-paced, and highly opinionated, often exploring development pipelines and trade scenarios while staying rooted in Cardinal Nation lore.

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