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Talking About Birds: A St. Louis Cardinals Podcast

Nate Heininger & Ben Simorka
St. Louis Cardinals
Nolan Arenado
Jordan Walker
Major League Baseball
Baseball
Sonny Gray
Brendan Donovan
Trade Deadline
Ryan Helsley
Willson Contreras
Nolan Gorman
MLB
Chicago Cubs
JJ Wetherholt
Alec Burleson
Zips Projection System
Spring Training
Victor Scott
Mason Wynn
John Mozeliak

The only Cardinals podcast dumber than running on Yadi. A weekly podcast mostly about the St. Louis Cardinals.

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Latest Episodes

The Cardinals are officially eliminated, so Nate and Ben start making peace with a season that — against every expectation — still counts as a success. They dig into the bullpen that sank it, the Michael McGreevy puzzle (no strikeouts, sub-4 ERA), Jo... more

Albert Pujols and Yadier Molina went into the Cardinals Hall of Fame together, and Nate and Ben get appropriately misty about a pairing we'll probably never see again. Then they celebrate the young core carrying September — Thomas Saggese's breakout,... more

Umpire Doug Eddings picked the wrong night to make it about himself. Nate and Ben break down his meltdown against a rookie, Oli Marmol's now-legendary response, and what it all says about accountability and robot umps. Then, with the Cardinals down t... more

The curse rolls on: the podcast is haunted, the Cardinals keep losing players, and JJ Wetherholt is the latest to hit the IL. Nate and Ben map out the team's slim 2.5% path to October, make the full-throated case that JJ is getting robbed in the Rook... more

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Recent Guests

Kyle Reese
Friend of the show; Cardinals draft and development expert
Cardinal Nation / Cardinals coverage
Episode: I Believe the Children are the Future (w/ Kyle Reis)
Chaim Bloom
President of Baseball Operations for the St. Louis Cardinals (as discussed in episode)
St. Louis Cardinals
Episode: Blunt Rotation
Daniel Shoptaw
Guest, mentioned as current guest and host of C70 content
Cardinals 70 (C70)
Episode: (We Hope) The Kids Are All Right - Opening Day 2026! (w/ Daniel Shoptaw)
Ben Clemens
Writer and analyst at FanGraphs
FanGraphs
Episode: Graph Fans (w/ Ben Clemens)
Dan Szymborski
Senior Writer for FanGraphs and the founder of the ZiPS projection system.
FanGraphs
Episode: Picture Pages (w/ Dan Szymborski)
Jake Wood
Writer and podcaster for Viva Elberto's
Viva Elberto's
Episode: It's a Packed Show (w/ Jake Wood)
Nick Pollack
Founder of PitcherList, known for fantasy baseball analysis and pitching insights
PitcherList
Episode: Pitchers Missed (w/ Nick Pollack)

Hosts

Nate Heininger
Host of the Cardinals-focused show with a strong back-and-forth dynamic and data-informed takes.
Ben Seymour
Co-host known for chemistry with Nate and for blending humor with practical baseball insights.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 78 ratings
  • Knowledgeable and Finny

    Ben and Nathan balance their love of the Cardinals with an understanding that it should be fun and silly to think this much about baseball.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    LousyHusband
    United States7 months ago
  • I enjoy watching baseball

    My go-to cardinals podcast. Nate and Ben are knowledgeable and hilarious.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Lazilbean
    United States9 months ago
  • Great show

    The guys are knowledgeable and informative. Great chemistry, with the right mix of baseball commentary and humor.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Lone Star Yankee
    United Statesa year ago
  • These guys know their stuff and deliver a great conversation about the birds. Many times they take the words right out of my mouth (lately the frustrations) or they answer/address the question that I had been asking myself all week. Highly recommend this entertaining and informative pod.

    Audible
    5
    jbt
    United States2 years ago
  • Entertaining and informative

    These guys know their stuff and deliver a great conversation about the birds. Many times they take the words right out of my mouth (lately the frustrations) or they answer/address the question that I had been asking myself all week. Highly recommend this entertaining and informative pod.

    Audible
    5
    jbt
    United States2 years ago

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Show is described as comforting and top-tier for Cardinals fans, with strong community vibes.
Listeners appreciate the mix of deep Cardinals knowledge and fun banter.
Chemistry between hosts is consistently praised for being entertaining and informative.

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I Believe the Children are the Future (w/ Kyle Reis)
Q: Kyle, who did the Cardinals select with the 18th overall pick in the 2021 draft?
Kyle Reis answered Michael McGreevey correctly.
Blunt Rotation
Q: Where do you see the Cardinals this season in terms of the competitive window and the role of younger players?
Bloom indicated the team is not yet at its peak but is building around a core of young players who can grow into a competitive team, with longer-term potential rather than a single-year all-in push.
Blunt Rotation
Q: What is your thought on extensions and how do you view the risk between the player and the organization?
Bloom described it as a two-way street where the organization and player share risk, which makes extensions inherently cautious and contingent on long-term value rather than short-term gains.
(We Hope) The Kids Are All Right - Opening Day 2026! (w/ Daniel Shoptaw)
Q: Who will win the opening-day game against the Rays?
The hosts pick the Cardinals to win, with Libby (Liberatore) matching up favorably against the Rays, reflecting optimism for the season opener.
Hunks Are Back
Q: How did your recent sporting experience compare to attending a Cardinals game?
The live experience of the Nuggets game was exciting with visible physicality, crowd interaction, and the overall atmosphere was quite different than that of a baseball game.

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A lively two-host show focused on the St. Louis Cardinals, mixing in-depth baseball analysis with playful banter, fan-friendly segments, and occasional guests. Topics span player performance, roster moves, farm system prospects, and what it all means for the team's trajectory, with running jokes and pop culture detours that keep the conversation accessible for devoted fans. The format tends to be informal, fast-paced, and highly opinionated, often exploring development pipelines and trade scenarios while staying rooted in Cardinal Nation lore.

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2. Chaim Bloom
3. Daniel Shoptaw
4. Ben Clemens
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