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SaaS Backwards - Reverse Engineering SaaS Success

Ken Lempit
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Saas Marketing
Customer Engagement
Artificial Intelligence
B2B Marketing
Go-To-Market Strategy
Customer Success
Customer Retention
Entrepreneurship
Demand Generation
Lead Generation
Marketing Strategy
Sales Strategies
B2B Saas
B2B Sales
Customer Onboarding
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AI In Marketing
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Join us as we interview CEOs and GTM leaders of fast-growing SaaS and AI firms to reveal what they are doing that’s working, and lessons learned from things that didn’t work as planned. These deep conversations dive into the dynamic world of SaaS B2B marketing, go-to-market strategies, and the SaaS business model. Content focuses on the pragmatic as well as strategic, providing a well-rounded diet... more

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Guest: Ivan Lee, Founder & CEO of Datasaur

We’re looking at what happens when AI changes the market faster than the old SaaS playbook can keep up.

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Guest: Anthony Nitsos, Founder of SaaS Gurus

A SaaS company doesn’t become fundable because it’s growing—it becomes fundable when the financial engine underneath that growth can withstand scrutiny.

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Guest: Jason Roberts, Fractional Client Operations Executive at Scale CxO  

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In this episode, we explore why SaaS retention problems often begin long before renewal—inside the sales, onboarding, and customer handoff process.

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Guest: Dillon Okner, Founding Partner of The Oak Group / SiteRise  

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In this episode, we look at how a services business can become the proving ground for a SaaS opportunity.

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Anthony Nitsos
Founder of SaaS Gurus, a fractional CFO firm
SaaS Gurus
Episode: Ep. 198 - How to Make Your SaaS Company More Fundable
Jason Roberts
Advisor focusing on scaling retention and go-to-market alignment for B2B SaaS
Scale CxO / consulting for SaaS companies
Episode: Ep. 197 - The SaaS Retention Problem Starts Before the Customer Signs
Dillon Okner
Founding partner of The Oak Group; creator of SiteRise
The Oak Group / SiteRise
Episode: Ep. 196 - The SaaS Opportunity Hidden Inside Services
Tim Schumacher
Founder of SaaS Group, former CEO of cedo.com
SaaS Group
Episode: Ep. 195 - Why Code No Longer Drives SaaS Value in the AI Era
KG Charles-Harris
Founder and CEO of Quarrio, AI lab turned enterprise software company
Quarrio
Episode: Ep. 194 - The SaaS AI Trap: Fast Answers, Bad Decisions
Cliff Simon
CEO and founder of Polaris Ops
Polaris Ops
Episode: Ep. 193 - SaaS AI Readiness: Why Most GTM Teams Aren’t Ready for Agents
You Mon Tsang
Co-founder and CEO of ChurnZero
ChurnZero
Episode: Ep. 192 - Why SaaS Growth Now Starts After the Sale
Sai Dhanak
CEO and co-founder of Deduction, AI-powered tax advice and filing platform
Deduction
Episode: Ep. 191 - The Next SaaS Wave: Don’t Sell the Tool, Own the Outcome
Javier Lozano
Fractional CMO and GTM leader specializing in founder-led B2B tech
Bolder Media
Episode: Ep. 190 - The SaaS Founder Bottleneck: Why Founder-Led Sales Stops Scaling

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Ken Lempit
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4.8 out of 5 stars from 13 ratings
  • Sharp SaaS Strategy and Timely AI Insights

    SaaS Backwards is one of the few podcasts that consistently blends strategic depth with practical, field-tested insights. The episode on voice, AI, and the future of SaaS was especially compelling, highlighting how voice-first interfaces are evolving beyond novelty into real drivers of productivity, customer experience, and risk. I found the discussion around voice as a data source particularly relevant, especially in compliance-heavy sectors like healthtech. As a fractional CTO, these kinds of ... more

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    YourCTO
    United Statesa year ago
  • Great website pod!

    Love the content and narrative around how to improve GTM process.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    ABCDEF AZ
    United States2 years ago
  • More than meets the eye

    This podcast always has great insights for both CEOs and CMOs of SaaS companies. They have some great subject matter experts and I've gotten many ideas that I've implemented in our marketing. It goes beyond many other SaaS podcasts, an the host is very knowledgeable about the SaaS business model.

    Apple Podcasts
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    Jason Myers
    United States2 years ago
  • Some of the best insights in the space

    I listen to a lot of SaaS podcasts. I frequent all of the top 25 in the SaaS marketing and growth world and this podcast deserves to be up there. Clear, incisive insights that you can take away and apply to your own brand

    Apple Podcasts
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    HillGamingCompany
    United States4 years ago

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SaaS Backwards blends strategic depth with practical, field-tested insights; voice, AI, and GTM discussions are highly relevant.
CEOs and CMOs gain practical ideas they can implement in marketing and GTM—no fluff.
Great content and narrative around GTM process improvements.

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Ep. 190 - The SaaS Founder Bottleneck: Why Founder-Led Sales Stops Scaling
Q: So how should founders separate their voice and perspective from the actual selling motion as they try and get to a repeatable go-to-market process?
The process is to extract the founder's learnings and trust engine, translate it into a repeatable system, and use it to guide messaging, positioning, and the sales playbook so that the organization can scale beyond individual founder-driven wins.
Ep. 195 - Why Code No Longer Drives SaaS Value in the AI Era
Q: What mistakes do founders make when they prepare to sell?
Common mistakes include not prepping for an exit months in advance, failing to make the business run without the founder, poor data room readiness, misaligned deal terms with post-exit plans, and neglecting cost optimization that can directly impact valuation.
Ep. 195 - Why Code No Longer Drives SaaS Value in the AI Era
Q: What should unsure founders consider when deciding to sell versus stay.
Founders should start from their personal why and life circumstances, assess whether they enjoy running the business, whether they want to pivot to an AI-centric model, and consider timing and post-exit life goals, including whether to lock in incentives through an earn-out or pursue strategic buyers.
Ep. 195 - Why Code No Longer Drives SaaS Value in the AI Era
Q: Tell us how AI is manifesting itself in deal flow and whether it's rational or overblown.
AI has created a new form of fear among founders; for some businesses with only a UX layer, risk is higher, while those with real data and vertically integrated models may be less threatened in the near term. This has led to more questions and a broader consideration of exits among founders.
Ep. 181 - How Fast-Growing SaaS Companies Are Modernizing Their Revenue Stack
Q: How did you launch the product focused on Salesforce oriented companies?
Mark emphasizes the strategic decision to target AI companies and adapt to changing market needs, leveraging the need for modern revenue systems.

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What is SaaS Backwards about and what kind of topics does it cover?

The show centers on pragmatic, strategist-level discussions with leaders in fast-growing SaaS and AI, focusing on go-to-market challenges, pricing evolution, funding paths, and scalable growth. Episodes frequently explore how to modernize revenue stacks, build buyer confidence in B2B sales, leverage product-led and AI-driven approaches, and balance growth with sustainable unit economics. A standout theme is translating complex SaaS dynamics—pricing, funding, GTM motion, and customer feedback—into actionable playbooks, often through founder or executive-level perspectives who have hands-on experience scaling startups. The format often features deep dives with seasoned operators, practical examples, and lessons learned from both successes and... more

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