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Refin' It Up

Refin' It Up
WWE
AEW
Professional Wrestling
Wrestling
Cody Rhodes
Montreal
Owen Hart
Boxing
Blue Chew
Royal Rumble
A.J. Styles
Addiction Recovery
Les Thatcher
Randy Orton
NWA
Dino Bravo
Shannon Moore
Bloodline Storyline
Wrestlemania
Backlash

Former WWE referees Brian Hebner and Jimmy Korderas and TNA and OVW Senior Referee Daniel Spencer dive deep into the wrestling business and it’s talent from the view of the 3rd man in the ring

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This week we discuss the referee incident at OVW, Randy Orton hearing the voices again as he has turned on Cody on Smackdown, and we also recap RAW all in our first count. In addition to that we will have another great Refin Review; we are also thril... more

We are back for another great episode of Refin It Up as we talk about

Cody Rhodes big win over Drew McIntyre

Brian “Road Dogg” James” departing WWE

Jordynne Grace’s injured ankle injury before smackdown

Raw Recap

Refin Review

Professional Sp... more

Coming off of the Elimination Chamber PLE we have a lot to talk about. After watching the PLE and RAW on Monday are you getting excited for Wrestle Mania? We are also going to talk about the promo that Steve Maclin cut last week on IMPACT on AMC; as ... more

This week we talk about the Cody Rhodes and Sami Zayn segment from Smackdown and if and or when ether one of them will turn heel. In addition to that we talk about our thoughts about this past weeks RAW as well as what we expect to see this Saturday ... more

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Recent Guests

Connor Thornton
Wrestling content creator and influencer
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Episode: Episode 202: Connor Thornton
Bin Hamin
Owner and founder of Hamin Media Group
Hamin Media Group
Episode: Hacker Hamin
Jack Vaughn
Pro wrestler known for his viral social media presence and comedic takes on wrestling.
Episode: "The Veteran" Thigh Slapper
Roger Ruffin
Veteran wrestling referee and trainer
Northern Wrestling Federation
Episode: Roger Factor
Velvet Sky
Former Knockouts Champion and future TNA Hall of Famer
TNA
Episode: Sky is the Limit
Ken Anderson
Former TNA and WWE superstar, now running a wrestling school
Wrestling School
Episode: Mic Drop with Mr Anderson..... Anderson
Rob Van Dam
WWE Hall of Famer and former ECW Champion
Episode: Let's Smoke with RVD
Justin Labar
A wrestling journalist and commentator with extensive experience in the wrestling industry.
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Episode: Confessional with Justin Labar
Raphael Esparza
A renowned sports betting expert and global odds maker
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Episode: Betting Against The Odds

Hosts

Brian Hebner
Former WWE referee; Legendary WWE referee; host of Refin It Up
Jimmy Korderas
Wrestling referee; co-host and former WWE referee; Refin It Up
Daniel Spencer
OVW and TNA senior official; Refin It Up

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 61 ratings
  • Great Idea!!

    Thank you!! This really is a great idea and I’m so happy you guys decided to create this Podcast. Peeking being the curtain and going behind the scenes from the build up, in ring action, and more of some of the greatest matches is what so many fans are interested in. Excited to listen and learn more about the life’s of those who were involved in creating amazing matches and memories for so many.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    JoeyDi
    United Statesa year ago
  • EXCELLENT WRESTLING PODCAST!

    These guys are bang on their conversations about what’s going on in today’s Pro Wrestling. And Jimmy’s Karaoke is pretty damn good👌😁

    From Jerry @Jer_rouss

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    jerrouss
    Canada2 years ago
  • Love it!

    Always Love to hear what these Veteran Zebras have to say about Todays Wrestling and their llve of the Business!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Mongrovian Mike
    United States2 years ago
  • So informative

    This show really dives deep into current wrestling happenings and Brian holds back no punches. Very informative and entertaining. It’s a must listen for not just wrestling fans but for everyone.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    “Y” Me!?!
    United States3 years ago
  • Wow love it

    Found this by listening to another podcast. This is the podcast I didnt know I needed but need to listen now . Love it .

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Westbound007
    United States3 years ago

Listeners Say

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Great balance of humor and tough takes on wrestling storytelling.
Shows deep industry insight from referees with real backstage context.
Consistent, informed discussions that fans can trust.

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#195
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Apple Podcasts
#92
Canada/Sports/Wrestling
Apple Podcasts
#126
United Kingdom/Sports/Wrestling
Apple Podcasts
#84
Australia/Sports/Wrestling
Apple Podcasts
#56
Israel/Sports/Wrestling
Apple Podcasts
#206
Ireland/Sports/Wrestling

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Refin Rewind: Sgt Slaughter
Q: What are your thoughts on the current state of refereeing in wrestling today?
I think referees today don't have the same level of control or clearly defined roles. Back in my day, we protected referees, and they were integral to the storytelling.
Refin Rewind: Sgt Slaughter
Q: How did you feel about your heel turn where you portrayed an Iraqi sympathizer?
It was a character-driven decision, and although it was controversial, I embraced the opportunity to create a compelling narrative that resonated with audiences.
Hacker Hamin
Q: How do you feel about the Cena Last Time Is Now tournament?
It's a C minus idea, a last-ditch effort rather than a well-planned story.
Hacker Hamin
Q: What is the biggest change you've seen from being in the creative room in wrestling?
There's no advocacy for voicing opinions; creative seems stagnant, with only 10% value being delivered in storytelling.
One Take From Drake
Q: Drake, does David Greco know that you're going to be his replacement?
They talk about it every time I call in because people say I'm going to take his job.

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A candid backstage-style look at professional wrestling from the view of three veteran referees who spent years inside the ring. Conversations span current storylines, backstage dynamics, talent relationships, and the business side of wrestling, with plenty of anecdotes from their experiences officiating major promotions. The show combines plain-spoken analysis of matches and storytelling with insider perspectives on character turns, production nuances, and industry shifts, making it appealing to hardcore fans and industry-watchers alike. Unique angles include referee-centric storytelling, long-form career anecdotes, and occasional crossovers with wrestlers and media figures.

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Recent guests on Refin' It Up include:

1. Connor Thornton
2. Bin Hamin
3. Jack Vaughn
4. Roger Ruffin
5. Velvet Sky
6. Ken Anderson
7. Rob Van Dam
8. Justin Labar

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