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Refin' It Up

Refin' It Up
WWE
AEW
TNA
Wrestlemania
Wrestling
Professional Wrestling
TNA Wrestling
Cody Rhodes
NXT
Impact Wrestling
NWA
OVW
Survivor Series
John Cena
AJ Styles
Slammiversary
ECW
Bound For Glory
Refereeing
Undertaker

Former WWE referees Brian Hebner and Jimmy Korderas and TNA and OVW Senior Referee Daniel Spencer dive deep into the wrestling business and it’s talent from the view of the 3rd man in the ring

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Dominik Mysterio is frustrated with how he is booked in WWE vs. AAA

Paying Your Dues

AAA tournament to face Roman on raw in Mexico City

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Triple H’s response to Damian Priest's recent comments about the same 4 people being on top

Thoughts on Summer Slam

RAW after Summer Slam

Brock Lesnar’s retirement from wrestling

The passing of Dory Funk Jr.

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WWE Radio taking over Sirius XM 156

The push towards Summer Slam this weekend

Kerry Morris returns to talk about ticket pricing being too high

The latest RAW from Monday

Our world famous Refin Review

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TNA Wrestlings record breaking TV numbers

MLP television debut

Crowing a new women’s world champion

Booking short term and long term

Having PPVs to just have PPVs

Ticket Pricing

Was SNME successful?

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Recent Guests

Donnie De Silva
Guest, former wrestling radio personality
Episode: Episode 225: Prices are too high
Stu Grayson
Current interim Maple Leaf Pro Wrestling Heavyweight Champion, Canadian wrestler
Maple Leaf Pro Wrestling (MLP)
Episode: Episode 223: Stu Grayson
Rob Van Dam
WWE Hall of Famer, ECW legend
Independent professional wrestling
Episode: Episode 221: Refin Rewind with RVD
Spike Dudley
Special guest encountered on Huge Pop segment during the episode
Independent wrestler / podcast contributor
Episode: Episode 218: All in on Yourself
Donnie DaSilva
Guest host, longtime wrestling referee persona and on-air commentator
Wrestling industry (referee/analyst)
Episode: Episode 216: Popping Huge
AJ Francis
TNA/OVW guest mentioned
TNA
Episode: Episode 213: Summer Changes
Kerry Morris
Lring-side observer and noted ringside personality
Episode: Episode 212: Ringside With Kerry Morris
Mike Santana
TNA World Champion, guest interviewed on Ref Review
TNA
Episode: Episode 209: Storytime with Refin It Up
Connor Thornton
Wrestling content creator and influencer
Conman167
Episode: Episode 202: Connor Thornton

Hosts

Daniel Spencer
OVW/TNA senior official; host of Refin It Up; longtime referee with deep backstage and promotions insight
Jimmy Korderas
Co-host; veteran referee with extensive in-ring officiating experience
Brian Hebner
Co-host; legendary WWE referee; brings historical and business context to discussions

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 62 ratings
  • Great Idea!!

    Thank you!! This really is a great idea and I’m so happy you guys decided to create this Podcast. Peeking being the curtain and going behind the scenes from the build up, in ring action, and more of some of the greatest matches is what so many fans are interested in. Excited to listen and learn more about the life’s of those who were involved in creating amazing matches and memories for so many.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    JoeyDi
    United Statesa year ago
  • EXCELLENT WRESTLING PODCAST!

    These guys are bang on their conversations about what’s going on in today’s Pro Wrestling. And Jimmy’s Karaoke is pretty damn good👌😁

    From Jerry @Jer_rouss

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    jerrouss
    Canada2 years ago
  • Love it!

    Always Love to hear what these Veteran Zebras have to say about Todays Wrestling and their llve of the Business!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Mongrovian Mike
    United States2 years ago
  • So informative

    This show really dives deep into current wrestling happenings and Brian holds back no punches. Very informative and entertaining. It’s a must listen for not just wrestling fans but for everyone.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    “Y” Me!?!
    United States3 years ago
  • Wow love it

    Found this by listening to another podcast. This is the podcast I didnt know I needed but need to listen now . Love it .

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Westbound007
    United States3 years ago

Listeners Say

Key themes from listener reviews, highlighting what works and what could be improved about the show.

The format blends entertainment with industry analysis, appealing to fans who want more than surface-level wrestling talk.
Listeners praise candid backstage insight and blunt commentary from a veteran referee panel.
Guests and hosts are consistently associated with credible refereeing perspectives and real-world industry knowledge.

Chart Rankings

How this podcast ranks in the Apple Podcasts, Spotify and YouTube charts.

Apple Podcasts
#237
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Apple Podcasts
#122
Canada/Sports/Wrestling
Apple Podcasts
#204
Australia/Sports/Wrestling
Apple Podcasts
#14
Israel/Sports/Wrestling
Apple Podcasts
#113
Ireland/Sports/Wrestling

Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

Episode 223: Stu Grayson
Q: What does it mean for Canadian talent to be featured on MyAEW and TSN2, and how does that impact the scene?
Grayson emphasizes that such deals create visibility for Canadian wrestlers, expand audience reach, and validate the quality of talent in Canada, helping to elevate the entire scene.
Episode 223: Stu Grayson
Q: How would you describe your time in AEW? Was it good for you overall?
Grayson reflects that his time in AEW was valuable for exposure and growth; the early years were a learning period for everyone, and the experience helped him develop beyond just in-ring performance, including production and broader storytelling opportunities.
Episode 213: Summer Changes
Q: What drives the decision to restructure a wrestler's contract?
The group explains it's often about draw, value to TV and live events, and the overall business health of the company, with restructures used to align compensation with performance and market value.
Episode 212: Ringside With Kerry Morris
Q: What is the biggest misconception people have about going to Saudi Arabia for wrestling events?
The guests explain that many fans fear heavy surveillance and severe restrictions, but in practice they found the country welcoming and safe, with misconceptions largely tied to outdated media portrayals rather than current conditions.
Refin Rewind: Sgt Slaughter
Q: What are your thoughts on the current state of refereeing in wrestling today?
I think referees today don't have the same level of control or clearly defined roles. Back in my day, we protected referees, and they were integral to the storytelling.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Refin' It Up

What is Refin' It Up about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A candid, insider-facing show centered on professional wrestling officiating and backstage decision-making. Through rounds of banter and expert analysis, the trio discusses pay-per-view strategies, booking philosophy, crowd reactions, and cross-promotional dynamics across WWE, AEW, TNA/Impact, and OVW. Notable strengths include long-tenured referees offering behind-the-scenes perspectives, blunt takes on industry ethics, and a knack for pulling practical insights from in-ring experiences, stories from travel, and memories from historic events. The format blends humor with hard industry observations, making it helpful for listeners who want a grounded read on how referees influence storytelling and business in wrestling, plus a steady stream... more

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2. Stu Grayson
3. Rob Van Dam
4. Spike Dudley
5. Donnie DaSilva
6. AJ Francis
7. Kerry Morris
8. Mike Santana

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