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Artificial Intelligence
Future Of Work
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Leadership
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Change Management
HR Tech
Acquisitions
Match 2
Voice AI
Moderna
Education
Job Market
Job Market Restructuring
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Artificial Intelligence In Organizations
Engagement In the Workplace
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A place to sit down with trailblazers, truth-tellers, and builders who are actively reshaping our world.

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What happens when AI can do more of the work we've traditionally assigned to people?

For many organizations, the conversation quickly turns to automation, efficiency, and workforce disruption. But according to Lara Albert, the more important convers... more

What happens when employees walk into AI training already convinced the technology might replace them?

Most organizations are treating AI adoption as a technology challenge. Dr. Xenia Wade believes that is exactly where leaders are getting it wrong.... more

BCG dropped two studies that should be taped to the wall of every CHRO's office. One shows that adding AI "employees" to org charts is making human workers sloppier and more likely to blame the bot when things go wrong. The other — "AI brain fry" — s... more

What does it really take to integrate people, culture, and technology in a way that drives transformation, not just change?

As organizations race to adopt AI and digital platforms, many are still treating technology and people as separate strategies... more

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Recent Guests

Xenia Wade
Change management expert and PhD in Human Resource Management
Independent researcher and consultant
Episode: EP26: The Human Side of AI: Trust, Fear, and Why Change Management Must Change with Dr. Xenia Wade
Tracey Franklin
Chief People and Digital Technology Officer at Moderna
Moderna
Episode: EP24: The Function Nobody Owned: HR, IT, and AI Finally in One Room with Tracey Franklin
Heather Jerrehian
CEO of H22 Ai
H22 Ai
Episode: EP21: The Entry Level Collapse and the Rise of 22nd Century Leadership with Heather Jerrehian
Ophir Samson
CEO of Ezra, expert in voice AI for recruiting
Ezra
Episode: EP19: Voice AI, Hiring Ethics, and the Future of Recruiting with Ophir Samson
Al Dea
Founder of The Edge of Work, talent and leadership consultant
The Edge of Work
Episode: EP18:Leading Through Change, AI, and the Future of Work with Al Dea
Alexandra Levit
Workforce futurist and author
Author of They Don't Teach Corporate in College; workforce futurist
Episode: EP15: Why Education Must Change Now — and How Work-Based Learning Delivers
Stephanie Loeck
Vice President of Strategic Development at GPS Education Partners
GPS Education Partners
Episode: EP15: Why Education Must Change Now — and How Work-Based Learning Delivers
Alexandra Zea
HR Digital Transformation Leader at Mercer
Mercer
Episode: EP13: From Reactive to Ready — with Alexandra Zea, HR Digital Transformation Leader at Mercer
Patricia Frost
Executive, Chief People and Places Officer at Seagate Technology
Seagate Technology
Episode: EP12:Leading with Humanity in the Age of AI — with Patricia Frost, EVP and Chief People and Places Officer at Seagate Technology

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Jason Averbook
Host of Now to Next with Jason Averbook

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EP4: Now to Next Solo Episode: Jason Averbook Answers Your Toughest Questions
Q: What are the implications for trust and the human side of AI in the workplace?
Trust becomes the cornerstone of AI adoption; leaders must be transparent about decisions, redefine operating models, and focus on re-skilling in a way that actually redesigns work rather than merely updating tools.
EP4: Now to Next Solo Episode: Jason Averbook Answers Your Toughest Questions
Q: The first one, what happens to HR tech when software itself collapses into agents?
The host explains that software will pivot from being the platform to being the orchestrated environment where intelligent agents handle intent and workflows; this will drive faster implementations, new pricing models, and a shift away from traditional system-of-record thinking towards agent-centric design.
EP7: Reinventing Recruiting with Doug Berg of Match 2
Q: What problem is Match 2 trying to solve in the talent ecosystem?
Match 2 aims to give candidates a single, persistent portal and universal connector so they can interact with multiple employers and platforms without starting from scratch each time, creating a more efficient, bi-directional data exchange between candidates and companies.
EP3: Shlomit Gruman-Navot: We’re Not Passengers in the AI Era — We’re Pilots
Q: How do you balance the benefits of digital twins and automation with the need for human connection in the workplace?
Use AI to augment rather than replace human interaction. Maintain transparency about when you're interacting with a digital twin, preserve opportunities for genuine human engagement, and design systems that enhance relationships and empathy rather than erode them.
EP3: Shlomit Gruman-Navot: We’re Not Passengers in the AI Era — We’re Pilots
Q: What role does AI literacy play for non-technical leaders in HR, and what practical steps can they take?
AI literacy should be mandatory for all leaders. Begin with understanding core concepts like LLMs and tokens, then pursue focused courses or hands-on exploration of use cases. Lead with AI in your workflow, build a personal capability with prompt engineering, and continuously upskill as technology evolves.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Now to Next

What is Now to Next about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This show centers on how technology, AI, and innovative people strategies reshape work, leadership, and the employee experience. Across recent episodes, conversations often probe how AI changes HR, learning, and organizational design, with guests spanning chief people officers, HR and technology leaders, and founders focused on workforce transformation. The host frequently grounds discussions in practical experimentation, governance, and the human side of automation, highlighting how to embed AI responsibly while maintaining culture, trust, and human judgment. Listeners are likely professionals seeking actionable insights for aligning technology with people strategy, change management, and long-term workforce planning. A notable throughline... more

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