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Jason Averbook
Artificial Intelligence
Future Of Work
HR Technology
Leadership
Authenticity
Change Management
HR Tech
Acquisitions
Digital Transformation
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Voice AI
Moderna
Education
Job Market
Engagement In the Workplace
Job Market Restructuring
Early Career Pipeline
Work-Based Learning
SAP Successfactors
Artificial Intelligence In Organizations

A place to sit down with trailblazers, truth-tellers, and builders who are actively reshaping our world.

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Most organizations are treating AI like a technology rollout. Buy the tool, train the team, check the box. Melissa Reeve has spent 25 years watching that exact playbook fail, from digital transformation to agile to cloud, and she wrote a book about w... more

What happens when AI can do more of the work we've traditionally assigned to people?

For many organizations, the conversation quickly turns to automation, efficiency, and workforce disruption. But according to Lara Albert, the more important convers... more

What happens when employees walk into AI training already convinced the technology might replace them?

Most organizations are treating AI adoption as a technology challenge. Dr. Xenia Wade believes that is exactly where leaders are getting it wrong.... more

BCG dropped two studies that should be taped to the wall of every CHRO's office. One shows that adding AI "employees" to org charts is making human workers sloppier and more likely to blame the bot when things go wrong. The other — "AI brain fry" — s... more

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Recent Guests

Melissa Reeve
Author of Hyperadaptive, Rewiring the Enterprise to Become AI Native
Hyperadaptive
Episode: EP28: Giants Will Fall: Rewiring the Enterprise to Become AI-Native with Melissa Reeve
Lara Albert
Chief Marketing Officer at SAP SuccessFactors
SAP SuccessFactors
Episode: EP27: Adaptability, Trust, and the Human Skills AI Can't Replace with Lara Albert
Xenia Wade
Change management expert and PhD in Human Resource Management
Independent researcher and consultant
Episode: EP26: The Human Side of AI: Trust, Fear, and Why Change Management Must Change with Dr. Xenia Wade
Tracey Franklin
Chief People and Digital Technology Officer at Moderna
Moderna
Episode: EP24: The Function Nobody Owned: HR, IT, and AI Finally in One Room with Tracey Franklin
Heather Jerrehian
CEO of H22 Ai
H22 Ai
Episode: EP21: The Entry Level Collapse and the Rise of 22nd Century Leadership with Heather Jerrehian
Ophir Samson
CEO of Ezra, expert in voice AI for recruiting
Ezra
Episode: EP19: Voice AI, Hiring Ethics, and the Future of Recruiting with Ophir Samson
Al Dea
Founder of The Edge of Work, talent and leadership consultant
The Edge of Work
Episode: EP18:Leading Through Change, AI, and the Future of Work with Al Dea
Alexandra Levit
Workforce futurist and author
Author of They Don't Teach Corporate in College; workforce futurist
Episode: EP15: Why Education Must Change Now — and How Work-Based Learning Delivers
Stephanie Loeck
Vice President of Strategic Development at GPS Education Partners
GPS Education Partners
Episode: EP15: Why Education Must Change Now — and How Work-Based Learning Delivers

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Jason Averbook
Host of Now to Next with Jason Averbook

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EP28: Giants Will Fall: Rewiring the Enterprise to Become AI-Native with Melissa Reeve
Q: What does the Hyperadaptive model change in practice for a large organization?
It emphasizes iterative, incremental change, frontline empowerment, and the creation of value streams and activation hubs to continuously rewire the organization as AI capabilities mature.
EP28: Giants Will Fall: Rewiring the Enterprise to Become AI-Native with Melissa Reeve
Q: Why do you say giants will fall if organizations don't become AI-native?
Because AI shifts the pace and scale of disruption; without reworking governance, incentives, and frontline empowerment, incumbents can't respond quickly enough to evolving AI-enabled workflows, leading to decline.
EP27: Adaptability, Trust, and the Human Skills AI Can't Replace with Lara Albert
Q: How ready are HR teams for this AI shift in entry-level work?
HR adoption varies widely, with some organizations heavily investing in AI capabilities and governance, while others are still building business cases and change management plans; progress will come in waves as companies tailor approaches to their maturity.
EP4: Now to Next Solo Episode: Jason Averbook Answers Your Toughest Questions
Q: What are the implications for trust and the human side of AI in the workplace?
Trust becomes the cornerstone of AI adoption; leaders must be transparent about decisions, redefine operating models, and focus on re-skilling in a way that actually redesigns work rather than merely updating tools.
EP4: Now to Next Solo Episode: Jason Averbook Answers Your Toughest Questions
Q: The first one, what happens to HR tech when software itself collapses into agents?
The host explains that software will pivot from being the platform to being the orchestrated environment where intelligent agents handle intent and workflows; this will drive faster implementations, new pricing models, and a shift away from traditional system-of-record thinking towards agent-centric design.

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What is Now to Next about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This show centers on how technology, AI, and innovative people strategies reshape work, leadership, and the employee experience. Across recent episodes, conversations often probe how AI changes HR, learning, and organizational design, with guests spanning chief people officers, HR and technology leaders, and founders focused on workforce transformation. The host frequently grounds discussions in practical experimentation, governance, and the human side of automation, highlighting how to embed AI responsibly while maintaining culture, trust, and human judgment. Listeners are likely professionals seeking actionable insights for aligning technology with people strategy, change management, and long-term workforce planning. A notable throughline... more

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