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Making Sense of Martech

Monarch
Marketing Technology
Salesforce
Personalization
Email Marketing
Customer Experience
Martech
Artificial Intelligence
AI In Marketing
Email Deliverability
Cover Letters
AI and Marketing
Data Governance
AI Decisioning
Measurement and Attribution
Coframe
Customer Relationship Management
Customer Data Platforms
Marketing Challenges
First-Party Data
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Unfiltered takes on the biggest shifts in marketing technology. We spotlight what matters, who's leading (or lagging), and what's next. In Martech, clarity is power — and we're here to deliver it.

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"Most of marketing is not a verifiable domain. You can't outsource it to the agents. You need the humans." - Scott Brinker

Scott Brinker, creator of the Martech landscape and former VP of Platform Ecosystem at HubSpot, joins Jacqueline for a no-hold... more

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"Content was king. Now context is the monarch." — Scott Brinker

Scott Brinker has been mapping marketing technology longer than most practitioners have been in it. In this Hot Seat episode, Jacqueline puts the godfather of Martech in the chair to pr... more

We host unfiltered conversations with the people shaping the industry. We track the biggest shifts in the marketing technology landscape and ecosystem.

Cutting through the noise to spotlight what matters, who’s leading (and lagging), and what’s next... more

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"The goal is not to personalize everything. You need to personalize what matters so that you can prioritize it internally in order to execute it well." - Jacqueline

Scaling personalization in marketing technology remains one of the most persistent a... more

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Recent Guests

Scott Brinker
Founder and editor of Chief Martech, renowned expert in marketing technology and research
Chiefmartec / HubSpot (as referenced in discussion)
Episode: Why Scott Brinker Says AI Can't Pick Your Tech Stack
Ian Reisman
Former Paramount marketer who led marketing automation across multiple brands; shared cautionary tale of in-house build vs. enterprise stacks.
Paramount (formerly CBS Interactive)
Episode: Inside Paramount: March Madness & Martech Chaos with Ian Reisman
Jeff Lee
Lifecycle marketing technical lead at Calm
Calm
Episode: Cut Your Marketing Budget by 50% with Calm's Jeff Lee
Eloise Gillespie
Associate director of personalization and martech at Optus, leading transformation to unified data-centric ecosystem
Optus
Episode: Personalization, Profit & the CFO: Scaling Martech Engines with Eloise Gillespie
Satya Upadhyaya
Executive with 15+ years in transformation, bridging business architecture, campaign execution, and systems integrations
Former Chief Marketing Technology Officer influence in banks and enterprise
Episode: Consulting Dependency Isn't a Bug - It's the Business Model with Satya Upadhyaya
Linda Cereda
Former global VP of marketing data at Nike
Nike
Episode: Beyond Just Do It with Nike's Linda Cereda
Adam Greco
Product evangelist at Hightouch and a recognized voice in digital analytics
Hightouch
Episode: Sweet, Suite Relief with Adam Greco
Mariska Calabrese
Senior Manager of Information Security at Beehive
Beehive
Episode: Battle of the Bots with Mariska Calabrese, beehiiv & Jakub Alexa, Omnivery
Jakub Alexa
Founder and CEO of Melket and Omnivery
Omnivery
Episode: Battle of the Bots with Mariska Calabrese, beehiiv & Jakub Alexa, Omnivery

Hosts

Jacqueline Friedman
Host and co-host with deep involvement in Monarch and Martech Weekly; steers conversations and brings industry-wide advisory perspective
Mark Mendoza
Co-host with a focus on Martech topics; participates in high-level discussions and provides product/marketing leadership perspective

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 13 ratings
  • Great expose into the world of Martech. Good compliment to Juan's newsletter too. My favorite episode is #35!

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    John
    4 years ago

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#187
Netherlands/Business/Marketing
Apple Podcasts
#234
India/Business/Marketing

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Beyond Just Do It with Nike's Linda Cereda
Q: What's one overhyped marketing myth you wish would die, especially with AI?
The myth that owning a CDP automatically enables omnichannel personalization. You still need strong product data, taxonomy, metadata, and aligned processes to truly personalize across channels.
Beyond Just Do It with Nike's Linda Cereda
Q: What was the first Martech tool you used and why did you choose it?
I started with basic tools like Excel, PowerPoint, and Outlook, which were enough to handle early data tasks and communication during my Ray-Ban days.
Inside Paramount: March Madness & Martech Chaos with Ian Reisman
Q: How long did the migration away from the old in-house tool take?
The migration took about six months, with early delays and later rapid progress once internal resources took ownership from the external consultants.
Inside Paramount: March Madness & Martech Chaos with Ian Reisman
Q: Which tool did Ian consider overrated in Martech?
Braze was described as overrated because while easy to start with, it can lock you into a data model and dependencies that hinder scalability and cross-team flexibility.
Inside Paramount: March Madness & Martech Chaos with Ian Reisman
Q: What was Ian's very first Martech platform?
The first Martech platform was an in-house legacy email marketing system called Outbound, with EMT handling templates and sends and CMT handling campaign segmentation.

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What is Making Sense of Martech about and what kind of topics does it cover?

The show offers unfiltered takes on shifts in marketing technology, focusing on how enterprise implementations evolve, how data and AI reshape decision-making, and the tension between big Martech suites and more flexible, capability-led approaches. Across episodes, guests range from CMTOs and data leaders to email security experts and SaaS marketing leaders, with frequent attention to governance, measurement, data quality, and the human factors that make or break technology programs. A noteworthy through-line is practical, practitioner-centered guidance—emphasizing internal capability, auditable processes, and clear governance to avoid perpetual dependency on external vendors. The format tends to explore real-world challenges (data fragment... more

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2. Ian Reisman
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4. Eloise Gillespie
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8. Mariska Calabrese

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