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If you have ever gone to a school or a park, attended a large sporting event, rode on a bus, driven on a highway, bought imported goods, or sent a wire transfer, you have been protected by the surety product. On the second and fourth Tuesday of each month Kat Shamapande, the host of Let's Get Surety will be joined by fun co-hosts and exciting and engaging guests who will share their stories, insig... more

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What happens when a banker discovers a calling to enter the surety industry? Join us as Monica Donatelli shares her unexpected journey from banking to becoming the Vice President, Surety Department Manager at IMA and NASBP's President. This episode d... more

How vital is cash flow to the construction industry? In this episode, Kat Shamapande and Mark McCallum engage with CPA Brad Robinson of Ward & Robinson, who unravels the intricacies of cash flow management for contractors. They discuss essential stra... more

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In this episode, Kat Shamapande and Mark McCallum are joined by Ken Cobleigh of AIA Contract Documents to explore the evolution of design-build and progressive design-build project delivery. Together they unpack how AIA contract documents are structu... more

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Tariffs are back in the spotlight—and the stakes just changed. What does the Supreme Court's latest ruling on presidential tariff authority mean for government contractors—and for the surety professionals who support them? In this episode, Government... more

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Recent Guests

Jackie Unger
Partner at Piliero Mazza
Piliero Mazza
Episode: #157 Tariffs on Trial: What Supreme Court Ruling Means for Government Contractors
Ryan Boonstra
Associate at Piliero Mazza, GovCon team member
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Episode: #157 Tariffs on Trial: What Supreme Court Ruling Means for Government Contractors
Eric Gaus
Chief Economist at Dodge Construction Network
Dodge Construction Network
Episode: #156 Navigating Uncertainty: Pressure Points on the Economy and the Construction Industry
Sarah Martin
Associate Director of Forecasting at Dodge Construction Network
Dodge Construction Network
Episode: #156 Navigating Uncertainty: Pressure Points on the Economy and the Construction Industry
Chris Lafakis
Director at Moody's Analytics, macroeconomist
Moody's Analytics
Episode: #155 Economic Echoes: Predicting the Unpredictable
Bob Bowman
Surety Underwriting Manager
Holmes Murphy
Episode: #154 Bridges of Trust: Unraveling the People Power in Surety Success
Justin Tomlin
Senior Vice President, Surety Manager
FNIC Group
Episode: #154 Bridges of Trust: Unraveling the People Power in Surety Success
Cory Hamling
Bond Director
EMC
Episode: #154 Bridges of Trust: Unraveling the People Power in Surety Success
Rocky Pofahl
Assistant Vice President and Bond Underwriting Superintendent
EMC
Episode: #154 Bridges of Trust: Unraveling the People Power in Surety Success

Hosts

Kat Shamapande
Host of Let's Get Surety
Mark McCallum
Co-host

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 19 ratings
  • Great Content!

    I’ve been in the Construction & Surety industry for years and this podcast is just what surety needed! I wish there were more episodes. I refer underwriters, agents and Principles to these episodes frequently.

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    Ikker25
    United States6 years ago

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High-quality guests and practical insights; some episodes feel dense but valuable.
Great content for the construction and surety industry; very actionable for underwriters and agents.
Solid industry coverage with a strong emphasis on risk, bonding, and policy impact.

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#157 Tariffs on Trial: What Supreme Court Ruling Means for Government Contractors
Q: What should a government contractor do now to avoid being whipsawed by ongoing tariff policy shifts?
Contractors should monitor and negotiate for protective contract clauses during procurement, document tariff impacts during performance, consider pre-award protests to incorporate protections, and be proactive in seeking relief through authorized clauses when tariffs are imposed or anticipated.
#157 Tariffs on Trial: What Supreme Court Ruling Means for Government Contractors
Q: Can you summarize what happened in the Supreme Court case and its immediate implications for tariffs?
The court ruled that the president exceeded authority under IEEPA for broad tariff actions, emphasizing the need for clear congressional delegation and signaling that IEEPA-based tariffs are not automatically valid; tariffs may still be pursued under other, more targeted authorities.
#155 Economic Echoes: Predicting the Unpredictable
Q: What opportunities do you see that could support the economy despite these headwinds?
Monetary policy easing, likely rate cuts, fiscal stimulus benefits in 2026, and ongoing AI-driven demand and productivity gains, with dollar depreciation aiding exports.
#155 Economic Echoes: Predicting the Unpredictable
Q: You've discussed what's changed since October. What are the key developments in the labor market and immigration that could influence the outlook?
Chris outlines weaker job creation versus the past, lower labor-force growth, and a downshift in international in-migration, plus AI-driven productivity changes affecting job demand across sectors.
#155 Economic Echoes: Predicting the Unpredictable
Q: Hey, Chris, before we dive in, can you tell me a little bit about yourself and about Moody's?
Chris introduces himself as a director at Moody's Analytics specializing in macroeconomics, energy economics, and climate economics, and explains how Moody's Analytics provides tools, data, and forecasts to help firms manage risk.

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A practical, industry-focused show exploring the worlds of surety, construction, law, and policy. Episodes frequently cover government contracting, risk management, bonding, dispute resolution, and macro trends affecting construction and trade. Guests range from underwriters and brokers to economists, legislators, and advocates, providing hands-on guidance, compliance tips, and strategic insights for practitioners. The breadth of topics—tariffs, bid protests, funds control, and advocacy—together create a pragmatic resource for professionals navigating complex regulatory and market environments. Noteworthy elements include a strong emphasis on real-world workflows, relationship-driven underwriting, and data-backed analysis from leading indus... more

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