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How We Got Here

David Thom
Australia
Australian Identity
Human Rights Act
John Howard
Australian History
Indigenous Storytelling
Neoliberalism
Indigenous Australia

David Thom talks with some of the smartest minds in Australia to figure out how we got to this weird moment in history. From politics and identity to music and sport, each episode features a new expert as they answer the question: How did we get here? How We Got Here: Host: David Thom Music: Anya Haywood

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Australia is a nation defined by its sport. But there is more to our sporting past then many know. On this episode of How We Got Here David Thom sits down with Daryl Adair Associate Professor of Sport Management in the Business School at University o... more

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Bruce Pascoe is one of the most exciting and controversial minds in Australia. His book Dark Emu broke open the idea the Aboriginal civilisations were primitive nomadic societies. I brought him on to talk about one fascinating question: Over 60,000 y... more

In 1982 Goanna released Solid Rock, a song that changed the way Australia talked about it's relationship to it's Indigenous people. So where did it come from and where does it still stand?

On this episode of How We Got Here I sit down with Shane How... more

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Shane Howard
Lead singer of Goanna, songwriter
Goanna / Musician
Episode: Solid Rock & Mythologising Australia: Shane Howard
Amy Remeikis
Chief political analyst at the Australia Institute and contributing editor at The New Daily; author
Australia Institute; The New Daily; author
Episode: What is John Howard's Legacy?: Amy Remeikis
Warwick Thornton
Australian filmmaker
Episode: The Brutality of Aussie history: Warwick Thornton
Julianne Schultz
Emeritus professor at Griffith University of Media and Culture; founding editor of Griffith Review; author of The Idea of Australia
Griffith University
Episode: The Idea of Australia: Julianne Schultz

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Solid Rock & Mythologising Australia: Shane Howard
Q: What were you thinking at the time that really brought that song out of you?
He describes wrestling with the gaps between admiration for the landscape and the harsher truths of dispossession, and how the song evolved as he connected with Indigenous perspectives and local histories.
Solid Rock & Mythologising Australia: Shane Howard
Q: Well, so it's been a few years since you wrote Solid Rock, but I was wondering if you could take us back in time to when you first wrote it?
Howard explains the genesis of Solid Rock during a trip to Uluru and how the song grew from a place of wonder into a sharp social critique of colonisation, prompting him to consider how national myths gloss over uncomfortable histories.
The Brutality of Aussie history: Warwick Thornton
Q: What does progress mean in the context of Australian history and culture, especially when facing its darker chapters?
Progress should be measured by understanding, dignity, and the ability to learn from the past, not by power or fear-mongering, and cinema can help illuminate that path.
The Brutality of Aussie history: Warwick Thornton
Q: Do you still feel like anger motivates your work, and how do you channel that into constructive storytelling?
Anger is an energy, but it needs to be transformed into storytelling that educates and entertains without becoming a lecture, so the audience can heal through engagement.
The Brutality of Aussie history: Warwick Thornton
Q: So what was it about Wolfram that you felt needed to be told by now, as opposed to your previous work?
It's a healing continuation of Sweet Country, a way to address the brutality of the past while offering a more hopeful, gender-flipped universe that still stays true to Indigenous truth-telling.

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