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Groundwater: The Blues Beneath American Music

Thomas Stubbs
New Orleans
Chicago
Payola
Louis Armstrong
Chicago Blues
Aretha Franklin
Piedmont Blues
Congo Square
Illinois Central Railroad
Muscle Shoals, United States
New Orleans, United States
Atlanta
Muddy Waters
Cleveland, United States
Alan Freed
Afro-Cuban Music
Chano Pozo
Miles Davis
Jelly Roll Morton Spanish Tinge
Mississippi River

In 1927, the record industry split American music in two and sold it to separate audiences. We've believed the split ever since. Groundwater is a music history podcast that follows the current underneath — the blues, running from Congo Square to the South Bronx, from Robert Johnson to Aretha Franklin to hip-hop. Each episode traces a moment the industry tried to keep apart: the soul sessions at St... more

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Muscle Shoals, Alabama, January 1967. Jerry Wexler brings Aretha Franklin, the daughter of the most famous Black preacher in America, to FAME Studios to record with four white session men she has never met, in a region where the Klan is a functioning... more

July 5, 1954. A storefront studio on Union Avenue in Memphis, a nineteen-year-old Elvis failing for hours — until he started fooling with a blues during a break and the man behind the glass stuck his head out. This episode is about that room, and the... more

On a Friday night in Cleveland in March 1952, a crowd twice the size of the building broke down the doors of the Cleveland Arena to hear Black rhythm-and-blues bands play. The Moondog Coronation Ball — often called the first rock and roll concert — w... more

In the summer of 1927, a talent scout named Ralph Peer set up a temporary recording studio on the third floor of a hat company in Bristol, Tennessee, and built the two shelves — race records and hillbilly — that still separate blues from country a ce... more

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Rich Pettit
The Blues Professor, longtime radio blues host from WRFG 89.3 in Atlanta
Blues radio host, WRFG 89.3 Atlanta
Episode: The Blues Professor, Part 2: Muddy Waters, the Mardi Gras Indians, and Where to Start with the Blues

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Thomas Stubbs
Host of Groundwater

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5.0 out of 5 stars from 17 ratings
  • Solid

    Well written and well-researched. But delived like a conversation at a dinner party, rather than an academic lecturn. Could use a few more music references to illustrate the convergence of styles he’s discussing, but still an honest, accurate portayal of an extremely complex picture of influence, convergence, and attribution of musical styles and the different diaspora they came from. Good stuff.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    LNF in ATL
    United States5 months ago
  • Great listen

    This is terrific. Really interesting cross-section of American history and music history. So much I’ve never heard about before. And some great writing in there, too.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Eppie333
    United States5 months ago

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Some note a strong narrative voice and thoughtful comparisons across genres and eras.
Listeners praise the rigorous research and vivid storytelling that connect music to broader social currents.
Fans appreciate the accessible yet deep dives into historical context and credit/ownership debates.

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#199
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#19
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#97
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The Blues Professor, Part 2: Muddy Waters, the Mardi Gras Indians, and Where to Start with the Blues
Q: Here's a couple more questions. How do you build a two-hour radio set in the studio, and what should frame the progression from first to last record?
The guest explains organizing the show into eight 15-minute segments, ensuring each block has a coherent theme (e.g., a birthday tribute, a blues style, or a regional spotlight) so the sequence flows without repeating songs and preserves variety from 1920s blues to modern interpretations.

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Groundwater digs into the currents running beneath American music, tracing how the blues and related genres traveled from Congo Square to the South Bronx and beyond. Across episodes, it examines how industry practices, cultural exchange, and political pressures shaped credit, crossover collaborations, and audience segmentation — from Stax and Muscle Shoals sessions to Great Migration-driven sound shifts. The show stands out for weaving archival history, musicology, and cultural critique into a cohesive narrative about why American music sounds the way it does, often spotlighting pivotal figures and moments that bridged racial and stylistic divides.

Listeners can expect deeply researched history, thoughtful context for how genres were label... more

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