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GovLove - A Podcast About Local Government

Engaging Local Government Leaders (ELGL)
Local Government
Climate Change
Public Service
Thurston Climate Mitigation Plan
Community Engagement
Economic Development
Public Administration
Local Government Services
Inclusive Transportation
Affordable Housing
Sustainability
Development Finance
Olympia, WA
Heat Pumps
Putting Assets To Work
Financial Stability
Bicycle and Pedestrian Infrastructure
Mid-America Regional Council
Equity In Transportation
California

GovLove is a podcast about the people, policies and profession of local government. From Mayors and City Managers to interns and everyone in between, we interview the people making a difference in their communities to learn about the great work being done at the local level. GovLove is brought to you by Engaging Local Government Leaders (ELGL).

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Julia Novak, the CEO and Executive Director of the International City/County Management Association (ICMA), rejoined the podcast to discuss her new role at ICMA. She shared how the organization is adapting after reduced federal grants for internation... more

GovLove Co-hosts Meredith and Ben were joined by several friends of the pod to recap the 2025 ICMA Conference. Tom Modica is the City Manager at the City of Long Beach, CA, April Walker is the Assistant City Manager at the City of Long Beach, CA, Jac... more

Mitchell Silver, City Council Member for the City of Raleigh, North Carolina rejoined the podcast to talk about the transition from working as a staff member in local government to becoming an elected official. He reflected on his work as Parks Commi... more

Four plans in one. Jason Zawila, Planning Manager at the Village of Downers Grove, Illinois and John Houseal, Partner at Houseal Lavigne joined the podcast to discuss the APA Award-Winning Village of Downers Grove Comprehensive Plan update. They di... more

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Recent Guests

Tom Modica
City Manager of Long Beach, California
City of Long Beach
Episode: #700 An ICMA Conference Recap, Leadership, Urban Revitalization, and Hot Wings - GovLove Island
April Walker
Assistant City Manager for Long Beach
City of Long Beach
Episode: #700 An ICMA Conference Recap, Leadership, Urban Revitalization, and Hot Wings - GovLove Island
Jackie Wehmeyer
Senior Director of Strategy and Intergovernmental Affairs, City of Parkland
City of Parkland
Episode: #700 An ICMA Conference Recap, Leadership, Urban Revitalization, and Hot Wings - GovLove Island
Mitchell Silver
City Council member for Raleigh, NC, representing District A
Episode: #699 Parks Commissioner to City Council Member with Mitchell Silver, Raleigh, NC
John Houseal
Co-founder of Houseal Lavigne Associates, urban planning and geospatial design firm
Houseal Lavigne Associates
Episode: #698 Cohesive Planning and Community Growth in Downers Grove, IL with with Jason Zawila and John Houseal
Jason Zawila
Planning Manager for Downers Grove with extensive experience in community planning
Village of Downers Grove
Episode: #698 Cohesive Planning and Community Growth in Downers Grove, IL with with Jason Zawila and John Houseal
Kelly McAdoo
City Administrator for the City of Santa Barbara, California
City of Santa Barbara
Episode: #697 Leadership and Change Management with Kelly McAdoo, Santa Barbara, CA
Lesley Milton
Deputy City Manager at the City of St. Helena, California
City of St. Helena
Episode: #696 Pouring into Public Service with Lesley Milton, St. Helena, CA
Valerie Lemmie
Senior Advisor for State and Local Government at the Kettering Foundation, former City Manager for several cities
Kettering Foundation
Episode: #694 Democracy and City Management with Valerie Lemmie, Charles F. Kettering Foundation

Hosts

Ben Kittelson
Manager at RefTelus, co-host with a focus on local government leadership, community engagement, and informative discussions with experts from various facets of local governance.
Lauren Palmer
Partner at EverStripe Solutions and host of the podcast, dedicated to fostering discussions around local government practices and best practices in public administration.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 226 ratings
  • I love learning about local gov!

    This podcast is so fun and informative. It’s so interesting to hear about local gov topics you don’t typically think about and learn more about the ones you do. I appreciate the host easing the interviewees into the interview portion with the lightening round—it’s always fun to hear how those answers vary (sometimes widely!) from person to person!!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    KKittels
    United States2 months ago
  • This is in my wheelhouse

    As a public administrator I thoroughly enjoy these conversations. Thank you!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Cnacious
    United States3 years ago
  • Stop w/the long lightning rounds pls

    Many of the topics have shared pertinent info, but I question why so much time is spent on the long winded multiple question lightning rounds. I believe the meat of the topics often times is a long wait, and the lightning rounds lead onto longer discussions that are often awkward and not pertinent.

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    us2centralAm
    United States3 years ago
  • Pretty good

    I’ve been exposed to a lot of good information via this podcast. I’m a council member in a small city, and this is a great resource to expand the professionals, and their thinking, that I’m exposed to. That said, the interviewers could sometimes ask more critical questions. For example, a recent guest posited that adjoining use conflicts could be better resolved by one-on-one arbitration by planners, or civil litigation between the parties, rather than preemptive but sometimes-blunt traditional ... more

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    Councilmember2
    United States3 years ago
  • Way too WOKE

    One guest mentioned “equity” about thirty times. He hit all the blue check marks: Climate Change (not global warming), Red lining, George Floyd, infrastructure funding, climate action, BLM, environmental justice, climate…

    If he had said “orange man bad” he would be a full fledged Woke-alist.

    Can’t you just discuss policy without the elitist slant?

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    OG dnb
    United States4 years ago

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The podcast is seen as a valuable resource for public administrators, providing insights that can improve their work in local government.
Overall, the podcast is commended for its positivity, engagement with real issues, and the contributions of dedicated professionals in local government.
Listeners appreciate the informative nature of the discussions surrounding local governance and the diverse perspectives of guests.
Some find the lightning rounds during interviews to be lengthy, expressing a desire for content that gets to the core topics more quickly.

Chart Rankings

How this podcast ranks in the Apple Podcasts, Spotify and YouTube charts.

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#123
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#218
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#127
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#146
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#163
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Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

#699 Parks Commissioner to City Council Member with Mitchell Silver, Raleigh, NC
Q: What advice would you give to someone that's considering making that kind of change or thinking about doing that as part of some point in their career?
You need to understand you have to form relationships, even if someone may not share your point of view, in order to get anything done. You also have to have tough skin and remain committed to protecting public interests.
#697 Leadership and Change Management with Kelly McAdoo, Santa Barbara, CA
Q: How do you handle the housing crisis in Santa Barbara?
McAdoo discussed the balance between maintaining Santa Barbara's character and addressing local housing needs amidst state mandates.
#697 Leadership and Change Management with Kelly McAdoo, Santa Barbara, CA
Q: How do you approach addressing budget shortfalls?
McAdoo noted how she supported a community conversation around a sales tax measure and acted as a fact-checker for community groups, reinforcing the staff's advocacy.
#697 Leadership and Change Management with Kelly McAdoo, Santa Barbara, CA
Q: What was your path to local government?
Kelly McAdoo explained how she discovered city management during her graduate studies and emphasized the importance of hands-on experience in different local government sectors.
#696 Pouring into Public Service with Lesley Milton, St. Helena, CA
Q: Can you tell us about the City's Community Academy initiative?
Lesley detailed how the Community Academy was created as a response to community concerns about transparency, helping residents understand city operations and build trust.

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What is GovLove about and what kind of topics does it cover?

The content focuses on a wide variety of topics relevant to the operation and dynamics of local government, including leadership, community engagement, public finance, sustainability, and innovative governance practices. Notable themes include the enhancement of police-community relations, the adaptation of government structures, performance excellence, and the integration of technology in public service. Through interviews with city managers, elected officials, and government innovators, the discussions aim to humanize governance and highlight actionable strategies for improving local community outcomes. This podcast is unique in its commitment to a diverse range of voices in local government, encouraging dialogue on pressing issues and ce... more

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Recent guests on GovLove include:

1. Tom Modica
2. April Walker
3. Jackie Wehmeyer
4. Mitchell Silver
5. John Houseal
6. Jason Zawila
7. Kelly McAdoo
8. Lesley Milton

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