Drumbeats - Canadian Indigenous Investment Podcast

Canadian Indigenous Investment Forum

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Indigenous Peoples Of Canada

Bill C-5

Indigenous Investment

Indigenous Communities

First Nations Finance Authority

First Nations

Major Projects Office

Trade and Investment

Nunavut

London Stock Exchange Group

OMERS

Indigenous Peoples

Kivalliq Hydro-Fibre Link

Enbridge

Indigenous Participation

Scotiabank

Indian Act

Raven Indigenous Outcome Funds

Indigenous Economy

WELCOME TO DRUMBEATS

Drumbeats is the must-listen podcast for investors interested in Indigenous investment in Canada. Born from the Canadian Indigenous Investment Forum, the show focuses on the nexus of Indigenous economic strategies and investment opportunities.

Hosts Mark Magnacca and Rob Brant, co-chairs of the Summit, lead engaging interviews and expert analyses that explore how these crucial... more

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Publishes	Weekly	Episodes	90	Founded	2 years ago
Number of Listeners		Categories	InvestingBusinessEntrepreneurship

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North America's First Indigenous Bond: $200M, New Asset Class, New Capital Stack

BMO's $200M indigenous bond was materially oversubscribed. A $10B federal loan guarantee is reshaping Canada's project capital stack. Two architects explain.

BMO Capital Markets issued the first labelled indigenous bond by a North American bank, a C... more

4 Aug 2026 • 31 min

Zero Defaults, C$4B Issued: Inside Canada's Indigenous Bond Market

C$4B+ in Indigenous debentures issued. C$10B in federal loan guarantees deployed. Two CEOs explain the capital architecture behind it.

Canada's Indigenous capital markets infrastructure has reached a scale that institutional investors can no longer ... more

28 Jul 2026 • 37 min

Indigenous Projects Outperform. The Market Hasn't Asked Why.

The City of London manages approximately 13% of global assets under management, representing an estimated 25 to 30% of internationally movable capital.

When Sean Willy, President and CEO of the Des Nedhe Group, sat down with Professor Michael Mainel... more

21 Jul 2026 • 25 min • Most popular

Teachers' Is Leaning In: A Maple 8 Fund on Indigenous Deal Flow in Canada

C$280bn fund building Indigenous relationships in Canada. OTPP's Robert Sturgeon and Suncor director JP Gladu on deal flow and a half-trillion pipeline.

Ontario Teachers' Pension Plan manages nearly C$280 billion on behalf of 350,000 members and dep... more

14 Jul 2026 • 29 min

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Sean Willey

President and CEO of the Des Nedhe Group

Des Nedhe Group / English River First Nations Economic Development Corporation

Episode: Indigenous Projects Outperform. The Market Hasn't Asked Why.

Michael Mainelli

Founder of ZEN, commercial think tank

ZEN, City of London think tank

Episode: Indigenous Projects Outperform. The Market Hasn't Asked Why.

Robert Sturgeon

Senior Managing Director, Global Investment Strategy

Ontario Teachers' Pension Plan

Episode: Teachers' Is Leaning In: A Maple 8 Fund on Indigenous Deal Flow in Canada

JP Gladu

Principal of Mokwateh; Board Director of Suncor Energy; adviser to BHP; Indigenous Advisory Committee member

Mokwateh; Suncor Energy; BHP

Episode: Teachers' Is Leaning In: A Maple 8 Fund on Indigenous Deal Flow in Canada

John McKenzie

CEO of TMX Group Limited

TMX Group Limited

Episode: From 2 to 200 Listed Companies: Scaling Indigenous Capital Markets

Lisa Raitt

Vice Chair at CIBC Capital Markets, former Canadian Minister

CIBC Capital Markets

Episode: From 2 to 200 Listed Companies: Scaling Indigenous Capital Markets

Sarah Midanik

President and CEO of the Gord Downie & Chanie Wenjack Fund; board director at CCIB

Gord Downie & Chanie Wenjack Fund; Canadian Council for Indigenous Business

Episode: What Gord Downie Started: Why Canadian Boards Now Take Notice

Jordan Baptiste

Partner and President of Creative Fire

Creative Fire / Des Nedhe Group / English River First Nation

Episode: Six Questions to Ask When Backing a Canadian Project

Shannin Metatawabin

CEO, National Aboriginal Capital Corporations Association

NACCA

Episode: NACCA: Banking The Indigenous Entrepreneurs Powering Canada

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Mark Magnacca

Host of Drumbeats; co-chair of Indigenous investment initiatives; frequently represents Drumbeats in leadership roles across Indigenous investment forums.

Rob Brant

Co-host; involved in Indigenous investment discussions and partnerships; frequently appears as a lead interviewer and co-host of major forums.

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FNFA's Jody Anderson: Indigenous Finance Innovation & Investment Partnership Strategies

Q: What exactly does FNFA do and how does it work with Indigenous nations?

FNFA provides short- and long-term financing, investment options, and capital advisory services to First Nations, using own-source revenue to access capital markets, and it operates in parallel with the First Nations Financial Management Board to build community capacity.

Flowing River Capital: Thomas Benjoe on Indigenous-Led Private Equity & Investment Strategy

Q: Will Flowing River focus on Western Canada or expand beyond, and how does geography affect opportunities?

The core strength is Western Canada where existing relationships and portfoliOS are established, but there are opportunities beyond the Prairies and even across borders; expansion will be guided by where they can add value and access scalable, Indigenous-led opportunities through their network and partnerships.

Flowing River Capital: Thomas Benjoe on Indigenous-Led Private Equity & Investment Strategy

Q: What's the investment strategy and how does it differ from traditional private equity?

The strategy targets acquiring companies that are already in Indigenous spend and procurement ecosystems, leveraging the supply chains to insert Indigenous leadership and capabilities, but emphasizing a measured approach to integration that preserves the existing operating excellence while building Indigenous capacity over time.

Catherine Pennington on Driving Indigenous Partnerships and Unlocking Investment Through KPMG’s Truth and Reconciliation Plan

Q: What is the Truth and Reconciliation Action Plan and why is it central to KPMG's approach?

She explains TRAP as a detailed, evolving program launched by KPMG as part of its commitment to education, youth employment, retention, and comprehensive engagement with Indigenous communities, government, and clients; it connects to equity, advisory services, and sustainable community outcomes.

Catherine Pennington on Driving Indigenous Partnerships and Unlocking Investment Through KPMG’s Truth and Reconciliation Plan

Q: Tell us a little about yourself and how your background shaped your path to KPMG.

Catherine describes growing up in Canada's Métis communities, training as a social worker and psychotherapist, and transitioning into the energy sector to influence change from within corporations; she emphasizes listening, conflict resolution, and building relationships as core skills that translate from social work to Indigenous advisory work in industry.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Drumbeats

What is Drumbeats about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Drumbeats showcases interviews with Indigenous business leaders, investors, and policymakers focused on Indigenous participation in Canada's major infrastructure, energy, and capital markets. Episodes often explore governance models, community ownership, and innovative financing—ranging from Indigenous banks and growth funds to cross-border investments and pension-fund participation—highlighting how partnerships between Indigenous communities and traditional capital can unlock large-scale development. A recurring thread is the push for long-term, sustainable economic empowerment through Indigenous-led ventures, robust governance, and collaborative frameworks that connect community priorities with global investment interest. Notable angles i... more

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2. Michael Mainelli
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4. JP Gladu
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