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Careers and the Business of Law

David Cowen
Artificial Intelligence
Legal Technology
CLOC
Ediscovery
Generative AI
Legora
Draftwise
Legal Operations
Law Firms
Legal Tech Fund
Litigation
Microsoft
Automation
Steno
Palantir
Legal Ops
Contract Intelligence
Definely
Smartphone Data Discovery
Servicenow

Welcome to Careers in The Business of Law with David Cowen, the podcast series designed to elevate and accelerate the careers of legal professionals. David aims to provide insightful and inspiring career stories from industry insiders, law firm leaders, corporate law department executives, and legal technology business leaders. This podcast will provide you with an inside look into the career jour... more

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Hosted by David Cowen | Careers and the Business of Law David Cowen sits down with Bobby Malhotra, litigation partner and chair of Winston's eDiscovery and Information Governance practice, member of the firm's AI strategy group, and founding member o... more

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Hosted by David Cowen | Careers and the Business of Law David Cowen sits down with Mark Allen, Director of Legal Operations and Strategy at Zillow Group - a title that is itself a signal of where the legal ops function is heading. Before Zillow, Mark... more

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Hosted by David Cowen | Careers and the Business of Law

Fresh off four days at McCormick Place in Chicago, David Cowen sits down with Oyango Snell, President & CEO of CLOC, for a post-CGI debrief.

The energy on the floor was unmistakable: this is... more

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Hosted by David Cowen | Careers and the Business of Law Adam Rouse (Walgreens), Ashley Christakis (CrowdStrike), John Koss (Mintz), and Major Baisden (Lineal) pick up where they left off at LegalWeek in New York - ten weeks later, the conversation is... more

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Bobby Malhotra
Litigation partner and chair of Winston and Taylor's eDiscovery and Information Governance Practice, member of the firm's AI Strategy Group
Winston & Taylor LLP
Episode: AI Governance Is the New Career White Space in Law: Bobby Malhotra on the Rise of the Tech-and-Data Lawyer
Mark Allen
Vice President of Legal Operations, Strategy, and Artificial Intelligence at Zillow Group
Zillow Group
Episode: From Legal Ops to Business Ops: Mark Allen on AI, Career Growth and the Future of the Function
Oyango Snell
President and CEO of CLOC (Corporate Legal Operations Consortium)
CLOC
Episode: Confident Curiosity: Oyango Snell on Legal Ops, AI and the Future of CLOC
Tom Baldwin
Founder/CEO of Entegrata, leading data infrastructure for law firms
Entegrata
Episode: THE INFRASTRUCTURE LAYER OF THE BUSINESS OF LAW WITH TOM BALDWIN
Kim Wolfe
Senior Vice President, Chief Administrative Officer for Legal at State Street
State Street
Episode: Up by 5:45, Thinking by 6: The Executive Discipline That Built a State Street Career
Mary Agbovi
Director of Legal Operations at CoverMyMeds; SOLID Advisory Council member
CoverMyMeds
Episode: Give Alexander Hamilton a Typewriter: The Reframe That Makes Change Management Actually Work
Carl Morrison
Senior Manager of Legal Operations at Otsuka American Pharmaceutical
Otsuka American Pharmaceutical
Episode: Slavery to AI or Freedom Through It? The Choice That Defines the Next Decade
Zach Posner
Founder of TLTF (The LegalTech Fund) and originator of Next to Solid conference
TLTF (The LegalTech Fund)
Episode: Years Happen in Days: The Investor's-Eye View of Legal's Trillion-Dollar Transformation
Joe Stephens
Director of Legal Solutions
Steno
Episode: Service Is a Commodity. Hospitality Is How You Feel. The Conversation About What AI Can Never Replace

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David Cowen
Host of Careers in The Business of Law

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 19 ratings
  • A delightful listen!

    I was recently a guest on Careers and the Business of Law with David Cowen. I loved our discussion. David asks thoughtful questions that get below the surface. As the listener, he asks what you want to know. Each episode is packed full of practical information and insights.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Molecular Biophysics
    United States9 months ago
  • Exciting!

    Thrilled to see more Cowen stories available - and more accessible to the market.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    RampivaBill
    United States3 years ago
  • Insightful advice

    Really insightful advice, that I have found applicable even outside the field of business law.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    jakekaearn
    United States3 years ago

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Polished host with thoughtful questions and practical insights.
High relevance for listeners pursuing leadership in legal ops and tech.
Guests praise the depth and actionable guidance.
Good mix of industry topics and career-focused advice.

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Judge Andrew Peck on GenAI in eDiscovery: We're One Case Away from a Decade of Setbacks
Q: Is there a conference or collaboration you'd like to see to advance understanding of AI in eDiscovery?
Opportunities for joint events, like a dialogue between Judge Peck and industry leaders such as Roger Pilk or Epic executives, could help set practical standards and educate the judiciary.
Judge Andrew Peck on GenAI in eDiscovery: We're One Case Away from a Decade of Setbacks
Q: What practical steps can firms take to prepare for first-gen AI cases in eDiscovery?
Develop internal AI groups and educational programs, ensure privilege protections with 502D orders, and educate both producing and requesting sides about the tools and methods used in discovery.
Judge Andrew Peck on GenAI in eDiscovery: We're One Case Away from a Decade of Setbacks
Q: How should courts and practitioners handle the risk of hallucinations from GenAI?
Requirements for citations and verifiable outputs are critical, along with transparent methodology and, where possible, case-specific education or science days to help the court understand the tools used.
Judge Andrew Peck on GenAI in eDiscovery: We're One Case Away from a Decade of Setbacks
Q: What is the key difference between TAR and GenAI in today's eDiscovery landscape?
GenAI brings speed and scale, but requires robust safeguards, clear attribution, and education for the bench to ensure outputs are understood and defensible, whereas TAR was a more limited, rule-based approach that predates modern large language models.
From Tools to Talent: Shannon Bales on Building AI-Ready Legal Tech Teams
Q: What does that say to where we are right now with AI tooling in legal practice?
It highlights that the landscape is still in flux, with no single winner and a need to continue testing, vetting, and learning from peers to choose the best tool for each job.

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What is Careers and the Business of Law about and what kind of topics does it cover?

The show centers on career growth and leadership within the legal field, frequently exploring legal operations, corporate legal departments, and legal tech. Episodes feature senior executives and practitioners discussing AI adoption, data and governance, transformational leadership, and practical strategies for advancing in law firms or in-house teams. A notable throughline is translating operational excellence and technology into measurable business impact, with a strong emphasis on cross-functional collaboration, mentorship, and continuous learning. The format often blends personal career anecdotes with actionable guidance, making it appealing for listeners aiming to elevate their own trajectories and for sponsors seeking a professional, ... more

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1. Bobby Malhotra
2. Mark Allen
3. Oyango Snell
4. Tom Baldwin
5. Kim Wolfe
6. Mary Agbovi
7. Carl Morrison
8. Zach Posner

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