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Office Matters: The BCO Podcast

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Inclusivity In Real Estate
Workplace Design
Built Environment
Construction Industry
Birmingham
Supply Chain Management
London
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Real Estate Industry
Government Property Agency
Muslims In Real Estate
Financial Distress
Contract Negotiation
London, United Kingdom
BCO Conference 2026
Regenerative Design
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Office Matters is podcast brought to you by BCO in which we delve into everything workspace and work places, from the people that make it happen, the places that it helps create, the planet that we need to protect as we redesign, retrofit and deliver fresh workspaces and the policies and practices that are impacting the sector today and tomorrow.

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Suzan Ucmaklioglu
Architect and inclusive design specialist
Foster + Partners
Episode: Office Matters: Agency, not Independence - a new language for inclusive design
Lauren Lemcke
Multi award-winning BCO member, speaker on sustainability in workplace design
Aecom
Episode: Office Matters: How one bright idea can change the way we measure workplace sustainability
Patrick Scanlon
Senior Director Analytics at CoStar
CoStar
Episode: Office Matters: AI isn’t killing the office, it’s powering the next wave of demand
Tobi Crosbie
Group CEO of Making Moves, occupier-focused advisory
Making Moves
Episode: Workspace Unwired: From space to service
Nicola Gillen
Chair of the National Judges of the BCO Awards
Cushman & Wakefield
Episode: Workspace Unwired: Inside the BCO judging process
Clare Fielding
Reluctant activist and board member at Freehold, a LGBTQ+ focused property network
Freehold
Episode: Workspace Unwired: Designing dignity
Gary Elliott
Director at Elliott Wood Partnership
Elliott Wood Partnership
Episode: Workspace Unwired: Engineering the reuse revolution
Georgia Elliott-Smith
Director of Sustainability at Elliott Wood
Elliott Wood
Episode: Workspace Unwired: Engineering the reuse revolution
Elliott Sparsis
Founder of Together, a space that blends real estate and hospitality
Together
Episode: Workspace Unwired: Why we all really want to be Together

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Sam McClary
Host of Workspace Unwired; BCO Chief Executive (various listings)

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Office Matters: Agency, not Independence - a new language for inclusive design
Q: If there's one thing we should take apart in the built environment as it relates to value, what would your one thing be?
Suzan argues for redefining value beyond what's easy to measure, emphasizing softer outcomes like how people feel, engage, and experience spaces, and calls for language that reflects agency rather than mere independence.
Office Matters: Agency, not Independence - a new language for inclusive design
Q: Tell us about the Spaces for Inclusion project that you've been pioneering at Hostos.
She describes her work partnering with groups like Disordinary Architecture and Sociability to surface user voices, revisit existing buildings, and identify key areas such as entrances, toilets, and the urban room where inclusive design can unlock opportunities and address lived experiences.
Office Matters: Agency, not Independence - a new language for inclusive design
Q: So can you talk to us a little bit about with, not for, and what that really means?
Suzan explains that with, not for means engaging with the people who will use spaces, recognizing that a small percentage of the population works in design and architecture and that true inclusion requires dialogue with users to avoid designing in our own image.
Office Matters: AI isn’t killing the office, it’s powering the next wave of demand
Q: Is the AI boom a bubble or a lasting shift?
It's a lasting shift driven by global tech giants and unicorns; the pace may slow, but the demand for space linked to AI ecosystems is here to stay and will shape submarkets for years.
Office Matters: AI isn’t killing the office, it’s powering the next wave of demand
Q: What trends are you seeing in AI take-up and its impact on London office space?
AI take-up has accelerated, led by large players, with longer leases forming as AI firms seek durable space that reflects their brand; London remains a core hub with a broader UK trend across Cambridge, Bristol, and Manchester.

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Workspace Unwired explores how physical spaces, people, policy, and sustainability intersect to shape modern workplaces. Across episodes, the show regularly dives into topics like sustainable design, placemaking, adaptive reuse, and the evolving role of offices in communities and economies. Notable angles include human-centered design, regenerative strategies, and the balance between digital tools and in-person collaboration, often anchored by practical case studies and leadership insights. The format tends to feature industry practitioners and executives discussing real projects, policy shifts, and occupier needs, offering actionable perspectives for developers, designers, and corporate space managers. A notable strength is its on-location... more

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