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Best Story Wins

Column Five
B2B Marketing
Branding
Marketing
Content Marketing
Customer Experience
Brand Building
Storytelling
AI In Marketing
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Welcome to “Best Story Wins,” a podcast for marketing and branding professionals looking to unlock their growth potential. Hosted by Column Five—a B2B marketing agency that specializes in brand and content marketing for SaaS companies—each episode features insightful conversations with industry leaders who are winning customers’ hearts and minds by building world-class brands. Tune in to hear expe... more

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Recent Guests

Avi Ashkenazi
Senior Product Design Director at Deel
Deel
Episode: In the AI Age, Taste Is the Last Moat with Avi Ashkenazi of Deel
Jon Howell
Guest from Ramp, leading brand experience design
Ramp
Episode: The Secret to Building Products People Fall in Love With with Jon Howell of Ramp
Ryan Hammill
Creative Director at ServiceNow with a background in technology and storytelling
ServiceNow
Episode: The Force Multiplier Most B2B Brands Are Ignoring with Ryan Hammill of ServiceNow
Asher Rumack
VP of Creative Strategy at Column Five
Column Five
Episode: Stop Catching Up. Start Doing Something with Asher Rumack of C5
Jason Lankow
Co-founder of Column Five, expert in brand systems and AI governance for marketing
Column Five
Episode: The AI Shortcut That Backfires Every Time with Jason Lankow from C5
Jacqui Morgan
Award-winning social media director and brand strategist
B2B tech
Episode: The Content Mistake Killing Your Growth with Jacqui Morgan
Lexi Croisdale
Director of Global Content Marketing at Varonis
Varonis
Episode: AI Just Changed Content Marketing Forever with Lexi Croisdale from Varonis
Julien Sauvage
CMO, Cordial
Cordial
Episode: How AI is forcing CMOs to Adapt and Evolve with Julien Sauvage from Cordial
Devin Bramhall
Fractional Chief Growth Officer with a background in B2B marketing and SaaS
Episode: The Sea Of Sameness Is Your Opportunity with Devin Bramhall

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Josh
Host of Best Story Wins, commonly introduces guests and guides the interview.
Ross
Co-host on the show, provides guidance and support during interviews.

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5.0 out of 5 stars from 26 ratings
  • Great for B2B marketers

    If you’re a B2B marketer, it’s a great podcast to hear perspectives from pros across different industries. (I also appreciate that it’s not 1.5 hours long.) Good info so you can get in and get on with your day.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Katy from the Coven
    United States3 years ago
  • Great Guests and Super Imformative

    I really like the collection of guests on this show. Most are CMOs or VPs at well respected tech companies, and it’s really cool to get a peek behind the curtain. Keep it up!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Family Band
    United States3 years ago

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High-quality discussions on AI, brand governance, and storytelling.
Great for B2B marketers with concise, actionable episodes.
Guests are CMOs or VPs at tech brands offering behind-the-scenes insights.

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The Secret to Building Products People Fall in Love With with Jon Howell of Ramp
Q: What makes integrating brand and product so hard and what does it look like when it's working?
The challenge comes from traditional camps (brand vs. product) and the need for hybrid role capabilities that understand both brand identity and technical product execution. When working well, teams cross-pollinate, share crits, and continuously iterate the identity system in tandem with product development to blur the line between brand and product rather than keep them in separate silos.
Stop Catching Up. Start Doing Something with Asher Rumack of C5
Q: What does a typical week look like for you in this hybrid role?
A typical week blends cloud-based tooling and cross-functional collaboration, focusing on marketing, new business, and client work, with bursts of activity around big pitches where time is highly commitment-heavy.
How AI is forcing CMOs to Adapt and Evolve with Julien Sauvage from Cordial
Q: How has the CMO role changed since you started, especially with AI?
The CMO has shifted toward proving relevance to secure AI budgets, acting as a capital allocator who ensures products sit in protected budget lines and becomes more technical and data-driven.
How AI is forcing CMOs to Adapt and Evolve with Julien Sauvage from Cordial
Q: What's your take on the idea that AI is eating the SaaS market? Is SaaS still got life left in it?
He argues the threat is real but headlines about SaaS dying are exaggerated; the real shift is that AI budgets are growing while overall IT budgets are flat, forcing SaaS players to become AI-first to protect their share.
How AI is forcing CMOs to Adapt and Evolve with Julien Sauvage from Cordial
Q: So Julien, as we jump in here, can you just start us off with a brief overview of who you are, what you do, and what your backstory is?
Julien introduces himself as CMO of Cordial with a background in B2B SaaS at Salesforce, Gong, and Clary, emphasizing a focus on sharpening positioning and scaling revenue without losing the brand's soul.

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What is Best Story Wins about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A marketing and branding-focused show with guests ranging from CMOs to VPs at large SaaS and tech companies. Episodes emphasize building strong brand experiences that align with product, practical AI-enabled workflows for marketing and content, and human-centered storytelling that cuts through corporate noise. Notable strengths include cross-functional collaboration tips, real-world campaigns from enterprise brands, and thoughtful discussions on AI's impact on branding, governance, and agency work. The format tends to mix tactical playbooks with strategic perspective, making it valuable for listeners seeking actionable insights for B2B growth and brand strategy. Potential listeners may appreciate the emphasis on measurable results, customer... more

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2. Jon Howell
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4. Asher Rumack
5. Jason Lankow
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7. Lexi Croisdale
8. Julien Sauvage

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