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Audacious Water with John Sabo

John Sabo
National Water Strategy
United States
Water Infrastructure
Water Governance
Climate Change
Water Security
Water Policy
Hydrologic Boundaries
Land Use and Water Use Integration
Economics Of Water
Water Strategy
Artificial Intelligence
Real-Time Data
Groundwater
Rural Water
Innovation In Water

Audacious Water explores the bold ideas and big decisions shaping the future of water in America. Host John Sabo, Director of the ByWater Institute at Tulane University, talks with scientists, policymakers, and community leaders about how we manage, protect, and live with water in a changing world. From flooding and drought to infrastructure and innovation, each episode looks at how water connects... more

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Latest Episodes

Our rural communities feed and power the country, but our water infrastructure tells a different story.

Olga Morales-Pate, head of the Rural Community Assistance Partnership (RCAP) and a national leader in rural community development, joins John to ... more

How can we use nature-based solutions alongside traditional infrastructure to meet our needs?

Melissa Ho joins John Sabo to explore how conservation is shifting from protecting nature in isolation to designing systems where people and ecosystems wor... more

If water is critical for economic growth, then why don’t we prioritize it in our planning?

Albert Cho, Vice President and Chief Strategy and External Affairs Officer at Xylem, joins John to explore why water security is foundational to economic grow... more

How do you insure a future where extreme weather is the new normal?

Raghuveer Vinukollu, a hydrologist and reinsurance professional, joins John to explore how the insurance industry is responding to the growing risks of extreme weather. Reinsurance ... more

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Recent Guests

Olga Morales-Pate
National leader in rural community development, director of the Rural Community Assistance Partnership
Rural Community Assistance Partnership (RCAP)
Episode: Olga Morales Pate: Why Rural Communities Are Being Left Behind on Water Infrastructure
Melissa Ho
Global leader in development and conservation; intersection of water, food systems, and climate resilience
Conservation NGOs/Global development field (as discussed)
Episode: Melissa D. Ho: Why Walling Off Nature Won't Provide Water Security
Al Cho
Vice President and Chief Strategy and External Affairs Officer at Xylem
Xylem
Episode: Albert Cho: Why Water Security is Economic Security in the U.S.
Raghuveer Vinukollu
Hydrologist and reinsurance professional; contributor to National Water Strategy
Global reinsurer; hydrologist
Episode: Rethinking Insurance in an Era of Extreme Weather with Raghuveer Vinukollu
Melissa Roberts
Founder and executive director of the American Flood Coalition
American Flood Coalition
Episode: Fragmentation, Flood Risk, and Rethinking How We Manage Water with Melissa Roberts
John Take
Executive Vice President and Chief Growth and Innovation Officer at Stantec
Stantec
Episode: Water Infrastructure, Engineering, and Climate Adaptation with John Take
Will Sarni
Globally recognized leader in water strategy, technology, innovation, and investment; practice lead for water and nature at Earth Finance
Earth Finance
Episode: Innovation, Data, and the Future of Water Management with Will Sarni
Newsha Ajami
Chief Development Officer for Research at Lawrence Berkeley National Lab
Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
Episode: Why the U.S. Needs a New National Water Strategy with Dr. Newsha Ajami and Dr. Martin Doyle (Part 1)
Martin Doyle
Professor of River Systems Science and Policy
Duke University
Episode: Why the U.S. Needs a New National Water Strategy with Dr. Newsha Ajami and Dr. Martin Doyle (Part 1)

Host

John Sabo
Host of Audacious Water; Director of the ByWater Institute at Tulane University

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4.3 out of 5 stars from 11 ratings
  • Refreshing

    Solutions-oriented and science-based. John is not afraid to spotlight big challenges like water access and sanitation equity for marginalized US populations. A promising new podcast.

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    United States5 years ago

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Brings policy and technical perspectives together.
Highly credible with practical guests and insights.
Drives thoughtful discussion on water equity and infrastructure.
Solutions-oriented and science-based.

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#231
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#126
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#128
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#176
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Melissa D. Ho: Why Walling Off Nature Won't Provide Water Security
Q: What are concrete examples of nature-based solutions that scale, and how can governance and finance support that scale?
Examples include managed aquifer recharge, watershed protections, and public-private partnerships in places like the Catskills and Gulf Coast; scaling requires governance reforms, better valuation of water, innovative funding, and playbooks that translate science into policy and finance.
Melissa D. Ho: Why Walling Off Nature Won't Provide Water Security
Q: How has the mission of conservation NGOs evolved in recent decades, and what does that mean for how we think about water security?
The shift is from fortress conservation to a framework where nature supports human and ecological needs together, emphasizing co-benefits, restoration, and system-wide design that integrates water, land, and people.
Albert Cho: Why Water Security is Economic Security in the U.S.
Q: Can you share a concrete example where data and governance innovations made a difference?
The digital twin projects for water infrastructure and the OpenET initiative demonstrate how integrated models and real-time evapotranspiration data can create shared facts, guiding decisions on where to invest and how to manage water across basins, thereby reducing risk and improving efficiency.
Albert Cho: Why Water Security is Economic Security in the U.S.
Q: What role do innovation and adoption play in solving water challenges?
There isn't a lack of innovation, but rather an absorption problem. Adoption is slow due to fragmentation, regulation, and prioritization of day-to-day firefighting. Effective strategies include targeted technical assistance, pragmatic incentives to adopt new solutions, and supportive financing that prioritizes projects with innovative components while delivering public and environmental benefits.
Albert Cho: Why Water Security is Economic Security in the U.S.
Q: How should we elevate water security as a core driver of economic development?
Elevating water security means treating water as a central input in planning, not an afterthought. This includes integrating water considerations early with other economic decisions, leveraging shared basin data, and aligning incentives and policy to support investments that simultaneously strengthen resilience and support growth, especially for AI infrastructure and data centers.

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