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Insight Investment
Investment Trusts
Aviva Investors
Columbia Threadneedle
Institutional Investment
HSBC Global Asset Management
Artificial Intelligence
Data
Hong Kong
MFS
Ninety One
Janus Henderson
Aviva
F&C
Asset Management
Baillie Gifford
Target Asset Owners
JP Morgan Asset Management

Alpha Agency (formerly White Marble Consulting) is a marketing agency specialising in the investment industry. Our podcast, Two in Twenty, addresses the often unique challenges of this industry through insights from industry experts in an anecdotal and accessible format. Tune in to each 20 minute episode to hear two hand-picked experts share their pearls of marketing wisdom. You can also catch up ... more

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Johanna Kalenska
CMO X at HSBC Global Asset Management
HSBC Global Asset Management
Episode: with HSBC Asset Management's Joanna Kalenska
David Chellew
Head of Marketing at Insight Investment
Insight Investment
Episode: with Insight Investment's David Chellew - Part 1
Alexandra Laurie
Head of marketing communications at Ruffer
Ruffer
Episode: with Ruffer's Alex Laurie
Arlene Ingram
MD and CMO of EMEA for JP Morgan Asset Management
JP Morgan Asset Management
Episode: with JP Morgan's Arlene Ingram
Malcolm Fried
Chief Marketing Officer, Ninety One
Ninety One
Episode: with Ninety One's Malcolm Fried
Ian Bruce
Head of Marketing Campaigns at Baillie Gifford
Baillie Gifford
Episode: with Baillie Gifford's Ian Bruce
Ross Duncton
Head of EMEA and DTC at Columbia Threadneedle
Columbia Threadneedle
Episode: with Columbia Threadneedle's Ross Duncton
Paul Zettl
Global Head of Marketing with a background in financial services and asset management
Former Cohen & Steers CMO; previous roles at Fidelity, TD Ameritrade, T. Rowe Price
Episode: with Paul Zettl
Kelly Mikhailoff
Customer and Marketing Director at Aviva Investors
Aviva Investors
Episode: with Aviva's Kelly Mikhailoff

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Twink Field
Host of Two in Twenty; leads Alpha Agency / marketing leadership discussions.

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5.0 out of 5 stars from 5 ratings
  • Asset Management Insights

    A great start to a podcast and very useful content.

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    dmc771
    United States7 years ago

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The host keeps discussions focused on ROI and governance, which resonates with sponsor prospects.
Guests are senior marketers with deep industry knowledge, offering actionable insights.
Listeners praise practical, battle-tested marketing tactics for asset management.

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with MFS's Lucy Davidson
Q: What does success look like for marketing in financial services?
Success is reinforcing trust and credibility at the highest level, driving qualified engagement with clients and prospects, and tying marketing efforts directly to growth and retention through credible data and attribution.
with Ninety One's Malcolm Fried
Q: How has Ninety One navigated the recent three-year headwinds in asset management, and what has helped you sustain resilience?
A focus on fundamentals, disciplined positioning, and longevity of staff; avoiding panics, maintaining institutional knowledge, and staying disciplined about client needs versus competition.
with Baillie Gifford's Ian Bruce
Q: What are your priority items for the next 12 months, particularly regarding AI and audience segmentation?
He emphasizes prioritizing AI to segment audiences, consolidate vast research data, and run dynamic campaigns; plans include using AI to tailor communications, improve decision-making, and expand global marketing efforts.
with Baillie Gifford's Ian Bruce
Q: What do you think has been really driving that success and how you've managed to achieve that growth over the decades?
Ian attributes the success to a combination of trust, transparent communication, and a shift in marketing focus over the last 15 years, including more PR, webinars, and direct-to-investor engagement, which built brand awareness beyond traditional intermediaries.
with Baillie Gifford's Ian Bruce
Q: Could you introduce yourself, give us a quick overview of your career?
Ian describes a long tenure at Baillie Gifford, noting growth from about 300 staff and 20 billion funds under management to around 1600 staff and over 200 billion AUM, and outlines his role leading two marketing teams focused on campaigns, content, advertising, and email.

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A concise look at marketing leadership within asset management and financial services, with a focus on integrating marketing into business strategy, measuring impact, and building client-centric brands. Episodes cover governance, data-driven storytelling, global brand management, AI-assisted targeting, and the tension between long-term brand building and short-term performance. Noteworthy themes include disciplined positioning for specialized audiences, cross-functional collaboration, and the shift from agency-to-in-house perspectives to drive growth in a regulated industry. This show is probably especially valuable for senior marketers and growth-focused professionals in asset management who want practical, battle-tested tactics and framew... more

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